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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:12 PM
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George W. Bush is Not Our President and I Refuse to Treat Him As Such
Full article here:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=469

“It’s all over but the counting, and we’ll take care care of the counting.” - Congressman Peter King (R-NY), Election Night 2004.

If someone kidnapped your child and then forged some adoption papers would you simply let it go? Would you simply treat the person as the parent of your child “for the sake of the child?” After it is discovered that this person kidnapped your child would you just “let it go” because “what’s done is done” and because “there is nothing you can do about it?” Would you not call the police because the police are kidnappers as well?

You know what you would do? You would do everything in your power, both legal and illegal, to get your child back and ensure his or her safety! You would do ANYTHING and ANYTHING would be justified. I don’t think anyone would argue with me on this point.

Do you love America? Are you a patriot? Are you willing to die for your nation? Then why did you allow your nation to be kidnapped?...


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http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=469
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:15 PM
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1. Never was, and never will be my President.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 01:37 PM
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2. Hmm, you guys sound suspiciously like enemy combatants
I hope that remains a mild joke.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:10 PM
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3. and by the way, one time Democratic Mayor of NYC,and now insane maniac
Edward Koch, is endorsing Peter King....
I don't know whether to :puke: or :cry: or :rofl:
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 07:50 PM
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4. Bush has NEVER been my president
I haven't HAD a president for six years.

I despise the way that horrible group of criminals elbowed their way into power and then expected to be treated as if they got there legitimately. What audacity, what in-your-face craven arrogance! I will NEVER refer to that little man in a monkey suit as 'president'. He is soiling that high office with his filthy smirking presence and does not deserve any respect at all. In fact he deserves to be jailed for war crimes.

You are so right, Jester. We wouldn't put up with this bullshit if anyone in our lives was kidnapped. But when our country is kidnapped, we're supposed to get over it.

No, I will not get over it. Not now, and not ever. :grr:
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 04:35 PM
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25. Never called him president. Never will.
Here and in conversation I refer to him as simply "Bush".
When supposedly communicating with my Senators or Congressbot or writing LTTEs it is "the current occupant of the Oval Office".

:thumbsdown:

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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 07:52 PM
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5. Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! ...or Fascism Forever. Never give up!
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:09 PM
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6. Gore is my president nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:12 PM
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:31 PM
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8. Yours maybe
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 08:33 PM by rhiannon55
but NEVER mine. Never.

edited to add: He did NOT win in 2004. Not without cheating.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:07 PM
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:12 PM
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15. So, if a kidnapper tells me he's now my child's parent
and everyone acts like it true, that makes it true? I don't think so.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:15 PM
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:22 PM
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18. You need to educate yourself
<<wether he made it to office legitimately or not, he's still our president who was sworn in.>>

I don't care if he was sworn in. His people STOLE the election TWICE. There is a lot of evidence, whether you want to accept it or not. Have you read Greg Palast's book "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy"? You could start your education there.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:29 PM
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:40 PM
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21. Have you taken your meds today?
Sheesh. Get a grip!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:00 PM
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9. I don't acknowledge the goddamned fucking chickenshit bastard.
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 09:05 PM by karlrschneider
Maybe some of the knuckledraggers over there in Coweta do...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:12 PM
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14. I rest my case.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:16 PM
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:36 PM
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20. He is not our president, and let us keep this in mind...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:21 AM
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22. a useful thought on the level of not cooperating with him but
most of the time, the problem is not how we treat him but how he treats us.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:14 AM
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23. Actually, the King statement was caught on film
. . .at a WH bbq sometime before the election.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Peter_King
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BruceMcF Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 04:30 PM
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24. Yeah, that's why I call it the Bush regime to distinguish it ...
... from the democratically elected Presidential administrations from 1 to 42.

Haven't seen it catch on, but then I haven't really pushed the meaning, just write "Bush regime" where a political reporter would say, "Bush administration" or "Bush White House".

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Bennet Kelley Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:52 PM
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26. A Very Disturbing and "Gingrichian" Statement
I found the article excerpted below disturbing in 1995 just as I found your comments disturbing today.

Our commitment to our Constitution and the legitimacy of its offices should not vary depending on who holds them. As distasteful as it may be, your president and all Americans' president is George W. Bush. We can fight the man and his agenda, but not the institution itself.

http://www.studiolarz.com/erickson/articles/weimar.html">AMERICAN WEIMAR By STEVE ERICKSON

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Los Angeles Times Sunday Magazine, January 8, 1995
The National Fury -- at Government, Politicians, the Electoral Process -- Is Overwhelming Not Just Bill Clinton’s Presidency, But Also Our Basic Faith in Democracy Itself.


America wearies of democracy. Thirty years after a war that wounded its heart, 20 years after a scandal that scarred its conscience, 10 years after fiscal policies that ridiculed its sense of responsibility and fairness, the country has nearly exhausted the qualities by which democracy survives and flourished. America feels at the end of its power, and the result is a hysteria of which we’re barely conscious, a hysteria in which democracy appears as a spectacle of impotence and corruption. . . .

History is clear that democracy cannot long navigate a sea of national rage. Untempered by rationale and open-mindedness, fury eventually consumes democracy rather than nourishes it, because it overwhelms our tolerance, our willingness to be reasonably informed, our determination to hold ourselves accountable for what we decide. Most important, it overwhelms our basic faith in democracy itself and our belief in the individual freedoms that are inviolate to the power of the majority, identified by the Declaration of Independence as endowed by God and codified in the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. We display less and less patience with what we previously held to be inalienable, less and less patience with democracy’s inherent messiness and inefficiency and the morass of conflicting interests that are read in democracy’s results. We display less patience, in other words, with other Americans


. . . Nevertheless, since the election of a liberal Democrat to the presidency two years ago, the Right has incessantly questioned not simply his policies and his character, but his very legitimacy. The night of Clinton’s election, Bob Dole appeared on television not to congratulate the new President or call on the country to support him, but rather to point out that, seeing as how Clinton received only 43% of the vote, Dole saw it as his job to be de facto president for the other 57%. In Clinton’s first presidential speech to a joint session of Congress, Republicans openly laughed at him, something for which there is no precedence in modern memory. In remarks on the floor of the House, Dick Armey, the Texas Republican who is now the new majority leader, taunted Democrats by referring to Clinton as “your President” -- this following his description of the First Lady as a Marxist. Former Marine Lt. Col. Oliver L. North said last fall that Clinton was not his commander-in-chief, and the new chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Jesse Helms, has suggested the military would happily harm the President if given the opportunity. Without substantiation, Newt Gingrich claimed the Clinton White House is a bacchanal of drugs, and Rush Limbaugh has hinted -- and the Rev. Jerry has openly charged -- that Clinton has had people murdered.

In the shortest and meanest terms, all of this may be viewed as “merely” a partisan effort to destroy Clinton at any cost. In fact, it is worse. Questioning Clinton’s legitimacy, the leading spokesmen for the Right insidiously question the legitimacy of democracy itself.


. . . The grand arrogance of America has always been that it would dictate its own terms to history rather than the other way around. Again and again the 20th Century has tried to say no to democracy, and again and again America has answered yes. The final American irony will be if, at the end of the century, with no foes left, having vanquished all those who laid siege to democracy, this country now turns to finish the job.
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