PROMINENT ATHEIST ‘DEIFIED’ BY FOLLOWERS

[Don Davis]

In what can only be described as the ultimate “cosmic irony,” Sam Harris, leading atheist and best-selling author of Letter to a Christian Nation, reportedly now has the largest cult following in the world, surpassing even the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

Called the Seventh Day Church of the Secularists, Harris’s followers deny the existence of God, but claim that the Earth was colonized by Harris’s ancestors, who came from the Galaxy Agnostica more than 30 million eons ago.

The Secularists chant Harris Krishna, and try to communicate with Harris through their hairdryers, based on a “fundamentalist” misunderstanding of Harris’s work. Harris, who has disavowed the group, has attempted to utilize his own hairdryer to “blow off” these crazies.

Indeed, Harris has become so besieged by his literal “followers” that he has even taken to seeking refuge in the nearest church, synagogue or mosque. Unfortunately for Harris, he’s usually escorted out unceremoniously, once he’s pointed out by one of the parishioners.

CONTINUED at: http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=487

[NoPasaran]

1. LOL!

:rofl:

[hippiechick]

2. I think this proves that most people are followers ...

... and will latch on to something - anything - if it feels comfortable to them, to help find 'meaning' and 'belonging' in their lives, including making a 'cult' out of an anti-cult kinda guy and his writings.

Helps explain the phenomena of Bush, no? :shrug:

[Mr Rabble]

4. You do realize this is SATIRE, right?

[hippiechick]

20. No, actually I didn't ... but it still wouldn't surprise me if it weren't.

:shrug: Didn't see a :sarcasm: on the OP.

[reprobate]

32. The "Meaning of Life" is quite simple and easily comprehended.

It is simply that on this journey we all take from birth to death, that we keep each other entertained.

Everyone must admit that the GOP has provided that for us for the last five years.

[zanne]

3. Oh for Chrissake.

Why do people need to live in a fantasy?

[unblock]

5. www.satiricalpolitical.com?

hmmmm...

:sarcasm: anyone?

[livvy]

6. Very funny!

"Harris is now reportedly in the process of writing a new book, A Letter to My Demented Followers, where he urges them to “worship the Sun, join Opus Dei, anything, just to leave me the fuck alone.”"

[sam sarrha]

7. are you kidding.. really are you serious... inquiring minds want to know.. i need a another LINK>

for this breaking news.. atheists are really quite passive in my experience except when Extremist Christians try to brain wash their children with intolerant superstitions in the public schools..

[NEDem]

9. Once again, you do realize this is satire don't you?

[sam sarrha]

12. you never know from a short poster

[DemBones DemBones]

35. Who says the poster is short? nt

[sam sarrha]

16. but it is WEIRD satire.. just TOO Weird, who cares.. except...

[sam sarrha]

19. my point is that it is STUPID satire... makes me curious

[Name removed]

10. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sam sarrha]

14. i just cant understand why we let people have free speech here.. the Media is controlled by the

Reich Wing and the Fundamental Extremists.. people who disagree with the intolerant Fundies should gave a voice.. Xions that what Prayer and scripture in church are extremists and intolerant.. they are not going to let the Muslims have call to Prayer over the intercom and line up in the hall on their prayer rugs.. they are not going to let the Buddhists impose a meditation in call.. and they are not going to let the Satanists sacrifice a goat anywhere on campus...

christians have the rights to practice their religion.. but i think confusing our rantings on these people.. http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm and the types that deny homosexuals their rights and demonize them as abomonitions... are fair game for criticism and the Corporate media is them or held hostage by them, so they wont say anything about their abhorrent behavior. dont think we all are down on all religion, i personally think it is phenomena of the limitations of our brains perceptual functions... and i am a Scientist also which is why i feel that way. restricting topics to the outlands, is like * fencing in the critics his critics a mile from where he drives by.. having said that, i try to qualify my rantings..

we are living in a world where everything is a reflection of photons..an unknown thingy of no apparent substance, that reflects of the electron cloud of atoms.. electrons also being thingys of unknown substance.. the electrons orbit at the speed of light at great distances from a small cluster of other unimaginable small thingys..of unknown substance and origion..... the relative smallness of the atom is comparable to the nucleus being a grain of sand in San Fransisco and the atom the smallest possible dust mote orbiting at the speed of light in a radius passing thru Bangor Maine.

what we feel is actually the electromagnetic repulsion of like electron charges.. everything we see is an illusion of reflecting thingys which we have no idea what they are. when we who are also made of essentially nothing but empty space touch a perceived object also made of empty space or the ideas of other empty spaces we ger all upset about it being right or wrong or moral or sinful and there isn't anything there..!!! and i say this with an empty tongue in empty cheak... GET REAL.!!

[papau]

22. Get Real back at you - it is not free speech - do we allow blasts at gays?

We look like a hate site for those who want to dump on, mock, ridicule, the religious.

Is that what the Democratic Party is all about?

I am also a "scientist" (MIT'65), and about half of all scientists are religious - so do you crap on religion when you go to lunch with a religious colleague - or do you just avoid including the religious in your immediate community? And if the latter, do you want DU to also avoid having the religious in the DU community.

Actually based on your post I'd assume you presume that because the majority (over 75%) of physics and math types are not regular church goers, that 75% of all scientists are such - if so, search on my name at DU and see all the surveys quoted that prove that wrong.

And if even one "scientist" feels religious, who the hell are you to mock him and to effectively try to push him out of DU, if not the Democratic Party.

Or do "thick skin" requirements now require acceptance of race baiting, gay bashing, sexist posts. Or is the "thick skin" only required of the religious?

[sam sarrha]

27. m;y references are only for the intollerant fundies..

[muriel_volestrangler]

29. When did DU become an official site of the Democratic Party?

Why are you harping on about "the Democratic Party"? It seems to me the Democratic Party is largely composed of Christians, who support the right of Americans to practice religion as they want, or not to. What has the Democratic Party done to mock or ridicule the religious? Most Democratic candidates are positively religious, saying things like "God Bless America".

If you are just confusing private individuals who post on DU and the Democratic Party, then it's time you rethought your position.

And where does "effectively try to push him out of DU" come from? When has that happened? Accusations like that need a bit of evidence.

[Name removed]

34. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

17. thank you for posting this

I have begun to think that some atheists are taking science as their religion--but science on their terms only. I have found that there are some (not all, but some) posters who will cite a study and extrapolate the findings to debunk all manner of spirituality. When I cite other studies that may indicate there is something yet to be learned about time/space/energy fields, these same people debunk said studies, with no good reason why. It would seem to me if they were scientists first and atheists second, they would say something like "Interesting. Obviously this field requires more study."

[sam sarrha]

21. what is happening is that they are lost in an Apriori Loop, they are not scientists, they are trying

to prop up their house of cards agenda by saying they have some sort of authority by being a scientist.. i was trained in Pure Science Research.. i have also worked in Corporate Science.. which is not science.. i took a seriously dangerous product off the market accidentally and had to join he PeaceCorps to hide out in Africa for a couple of years.

i became a Buddhist because of its logical and reasonably scientific approach to reality. after about 4 years of meditation training by a Buddhist Lama i had a 'Revelation' during a group meditation, that Buddhism was a lot like an A.A. group, 8 Noble Step program for people addicted to Conventional Thought.. i dont feel that the conventional mind is unnecessary, it does keep everything from happening all at once.. it just isn't inherently real.

i look at a lot of the religious activity as just being an obsessive compulsive behavior.. it just gets too shrill too fast.. it is an Apriori Loop, where ever one tries to communicate with them they come to the same conclusion where ever you start.. it is like talking to an alcoholic about stopping drinking.. YOU will quickly become the problem..

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

23. 8 Noble Step Program

a good way of talking about it.

Right now, what I see is dharma decaying, and fast. Time to find new roads, new inroads, new ways of thinking (or not thinking) and mainly BEING.

[sam sarrha]

28. who's dharma..? there are some Buddhist wana be's that have no Dharma to decay.

there is a wealth of Dharma, you have to work with what you have where you are.
i really think that is on the verge of way to questionable a rash and uninformed statement.

there is no doubt the Dharma has morphed into many cultures thru the ages..that is what it is was supposed to do.. it is 'a' timeless truth here in Samsara, the 4 Noble Truths are still very Real and some people feel that the Tibetans aren't Buddhists, they have scientifically investigated the process of meditation for the last 1400 years... it is being used to understand science.. check out Destructive Emotions. Scientific dialog with the Dalai Lama narrated by Daniel Goleman.. they are discovering the the study Psychology was tainted from the beginning.. they had no control until about 2000 in any of their studies of human perception and response..

i dont know where you came up with that conclusion or who you believed.. but i think it is not true.. the Buddha isn't here to tell people to dot the i' and cross the t's.. but that does not invalidate Buddhism unless you want it to..

I have spent a lot of time with some Tibetan Lamas, i know i will never be able to understand a fraction of a miniscule of what they know.. there is no other event in my live that is as important as my time with them.

[papau]

24. Thanks for sharing your opinion - Please Assume that there are those that think you're

full of it and of yourself in this area.

The obsessive compulsive behavior - at least on DU - seems to be atheists trying to regain lost self esteem by mocking the religious - but that is just my opinion.

[sam sarrha]

26. oh... i was wrong .. Gay is a choice and an the rest of th intollerance is true for everyone LINK>.

i was refering to the intollerant extremists who want to impose their morality on others.. they are not christians so dont be insulted...

someone has to have a counter voice against the intollerance and cultish extremists, there is none in the media.. they are the problem.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

[papau]

30. So it is better if being religious is the result of being born with a better sense of reality?

Like have a "God" sense added to the sense of smell, taste, touch, sight.

So the religious can't avoid being religious - they were born that way.

That situation would then require the atheists on this board to stop dumping shit on the religious - no more mocking religious beliefs?

But if you choose to try gay sex, or to try religion, and you were not born with the forced to do this DNA, we can all shit on your beliefs, on your sex life, whatever?

Or does being gay and being religious prove the existence of a religious and a gay gene?

I am trying to find the logic that forbids shitting on color, height, weight, sex, sexual orientation, but permits shitting on the religious.

You say you are a scientist, so I assume you can point out the logic to those like myself that can not handle the science, can not handle the rules of logic learned long ago, so as to develop the chain of logic that you are using to justify crapping on another's belief system.

Meanwhile I will not shit on the atheist belief system of the DU posters that mock the religious, and will indeed consider them a valued part of the faith family. Faith is,of course, the act of believing in something you can not prove - like believing there is no God and then asserting the religious are wrong to be religious because there is no God. We all agree that faith is not required to simply say the evidence to date, based on your own standards and life experiences, does not convince you there is a god, but this last statement is quite different from the assertion that the religious are wrong in their belief or asserting that there is nothing for the religious to believe in. Or was your "science" training not adequate for you to see the difference?

Besides free speech means one has a right to mock the religious on DU - it must be written up somewhere in that DU code of conduct - I just can't find where but that is my problem and not yours, eh?

[Hoping4Change]

38. The OP is satirical! nt

[Hav]

8. .

Lol, I have to say that this was quite good. At least in my opinion ;).

[papau]

11. Glad you liked the OP's post - but do you feel restricting this type of post to the Religious Forum

is out of the question as the traffic there is just not high enough?

Should dumps on Religion be allowed in any and all DU forums?

Is dumping on religion a political goal to be achieved through the Democratic Party?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. Dumping on religion should not be a political goal

of the Democratic Party if they want to get elected. Sure, there are a lot of atheists/agnostics here at DU, but even they will admit that in the country as a whole they are a minority. And whereas atheists are welcome and tolerated here, I don't know if you can say the same about the country as a whole. And since it is the country, and not DU, that elects people, the Dems have to keep that in mind.

What the Democratic Party should do is adhere to the Constitution on this matter-strict separation of Church and State. They can frame the argument in a way that will show that this is the way to allow the flourishing of all forms of religion and spirituality, which is, indeed, what has happened. Of course, it has also allowed for the flourishing of atheism. The notion that this has always been a "Christian" country needs to be dispelled with historical fact.

[papau]

25. I agree with everything in your post - :-)

:-)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

37. Huh? How is the OP a "dump on religion?" -nt

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. Hee hee

it is, indeed,human nature, to put a leader on a pedistal, isn't it?

Edited to add: I know it is satire, but the very fact that so many thought it wasn't seems to indicate that my thought might, at least sometimes, be correct.

Many atheists at DU do enjoy dumping on any and all religions. This is their right, but I sincerely wish they wouldn't hijack threads in R/T where the OP asked a legitimate question on religion and spirituality. Too many times they have quashed any discussion of the topic with their posts. I have even seen them go to the groups section simply to disrupt discussion--and I don't really know why, unless they have some quaint notion that they are right and everyone else is wrong and they have to inform believers of their folly--when this happens, their tactics remind me more of fundamentalist believers than anything else.

[sam sarrha]

15. yea but it makes it easier to knock em off..

[autorank]

31. Cult of agnostics terrorize neightorhood...

Burn question marks in the front yards of believers and atheists.

Great stuff and great site. I'm sure Sam Harris never had any idea that the folks
2000 or so years ago knew a little something...about idolatry.

KR

[Nikki Stone1]

33. Nothing like some deliberately confusing self promotion.

Usually, I like this kind of thing, but this is one post that requires readers to read the small print in the OP, including the tag line at the bottom revealing the poster as the author of the satire. Don't like the way it was done, and definitely won't go to the site. I agree with the person who said it was stupid satire.

[angstlessk]

39. I suggested Don NOT post his entire work in the thread and only give a teaser

and a link to the 'rest of the story'...why spend all the time required to come up with this VERY ENTERTAINING satire and not link to his blog? For YOUR entertainment ONLY? Talk about a 'selfish gene'...(see Richard Dawkins)

[DemBones DemBones]

36. Don, I don't know why some don't realize your OP is satire.

Chanting Harris Krishna indeed!

[CJCRANE]

40. V. funny, I like it n/t