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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:18 PM
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Governor's plan targets disabled (der GropenFuhrer)
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LAST WEEK, as he stood smiling next to a developmentally disabled toddler at the annual lighting of the official state Christmas tree -- dangling ornaments made by people with disabilities -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was forging ahead with a plan to cut services for the disabled.

To the nearly 200 disabled people and their families standing in the cold dark rain, it was a confounding moment. There was Schwarzenegger, admiring the decorations, praising the people who made them and even noting -- without mentioning his desire to cut them -- the many services available to the child at his flank.

Schwarzenegger, to help remedy the state's fiscal woes, is proposing a sweeping reduction in funds for the poor, in particular hundreds of thousands of sick and severely disabled children, seniors and their families. Under his plan, services for the developmentally disabled would either be terminated, reduced or capped, creating an imposing waiting list of people who couldn't get services unless another recipient died or otherwise dropped out of a state- funded program.

His idea is to eliminate about $1.6 billion from health and human- service programs. But doing so means cutting nonmedical services for children and adults with cerebral palsy, autism, mental retardation, spina bifida, muscular dystrophy, spinal cord injuries other disabilities.

<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2003/12/16/EDGQV3KOGO1.DTL>

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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:21 PM
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1. He's working toward a Master Race.
Just like Hitler.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:28 PM
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2. Nazi Persecution of the Mentally and Physically Disabled (link)

of course, the weakest amongst us are the first to be KILLED...and arnold's policies are truly DEATH for those with mental and physical disabilities...will America just watch, or will there be OUTRAGE...if you don't stop him now, you MAY be next !!!!
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Nazi Persecution of the Mentally and Physically Disabled


Nazi Germany was not the first or only country to sterilize people considered "abnormal." Before Hitler, the United States led the world in forced sterilizations. Between 1907 and 1939, more than 30,000 people in twenty-nine states were sterilized, many of them unknowingly or against their will, while they were incarcerated in prisons or institutions for the mentally ill. Nearly half the operations were carried out in California. Advocates of sterilization policies in both Germany and the United States were influenced by eugenics. This sociobiological theory took Charles Darwin's principle of natural selection and applied it to society. Eugenicists believed the human race could be improved by controlled breeding.

The idea of killing the incurably ill was posed well before 1939. In the 1920s, debate on this issue centered on a book coauthored by Alfred Hoche, a noted psychiatrist, and Karl Binding, a prominent scholar of criminal law. They argued that economic savings justified the killing of "useless lives" ("idiots" and "congenitally crippled"). Economic deprivation during World War I provided the context for this idea. During the war, patients in asylums had ranked low on the list for rationing of food and medical supplies, and as a result, many died from starvation or disease. More generally, the war undermined the value attached to individual life and, combined with Germany's humiliating defeat, led many nationalists to consider ways to regenerate the nation as a whole at the expense of individual rights.

In 1935 Hitler stated privately that "in the event of war, would take up the question of euthanasia and enforce it" because "such a problem would be more easily solved" during wartime. War would provide both a cover for killing and a pretext--hospital beds and medical personnel would be freed up for the war effort. The upheaval of war and the diminished value of human life during wartime would also, Hitler believed, mute expected opposition. To make the connection to the war explicit, Hitler's decree was backdated to September 1, 1939, the day Germany invaded Poland.

In all, between 200,000 and 250,000 mentally and physically handicapped persons were murdered from 1939 to 1945 under the T-4 and other "euthanasia" programs. The magnitude of these crimes and the extent to which they prefigured the "Final Solution" continue to be studied. Further, in an age of genetic engineering and renewed controversy over mercy killings of the incurably ill, ethical and moral issues of concern to physicians, scientists, and lay persons alike remain vital.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/disabled.html


don't ever forget that KILLING people with disabilities was FIRST...and because hitler and his minions got away with it, and there was NO OUTRAGE from the German people...the nazis felt very impowered to implement their 'final solution'

the 'final solution'
It is estimated that the Nazi established 15,000 camps in the occupied countries.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/cclist.html
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:08 PM
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3. Thanks for the post/replys you guys....
I hope that some people, MORE people are FINALLY getting this..obviously you two are. I've been trying to get that point across to as many people as I can in this and other forums.

Meaning, the Nazi/fascist mindset of Awwnold AND BUSH!

Me and my household are among the needy and disabled; I'm also raising my grandson via foster grants etc. So this is not a good thing to hear.
Before I go on, is it true that he has actually passed that portion of the budget here in Calif? I knew he got his bond thingy done. I've been writing to my reps--I was hoping they would be able to stave off some of the uncivilized portions of the legislation.
OMG, I'm gonna have to go check this out.......grrrrrrrrr
YIKES :wow:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:20 PM
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4. Buck v. Bell, a famous Supreme Court Case written by all of people
Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. A poor woman, born illegitimately, bore her own illegitimate child. The powers that were in Virginia in the 1920's thought this situation was so typical and had to be stopped. So a kangaroo court was held in Amherst, Virginia where the woman defendant was adjudged to be "enfeebled", thus allowing the state to sterilize her without her consent as you would neuter an animal. The objective was to stop poor white trash from breeding and becoming a drag on society.

The defendant appealed up to the Supreme Court. But Holmes really dropped the ball on this case. He admonished that "four generations of imbeliciles are enough." The woman was thus compelled to be sterilized.

This program continued throughout Virginia until the 1970's. Children were put into "poor schools" or "developmental schools" if they showed the aptitude for special education. They later matured, married, and couldn't understand why they couldn't start families. A journalist for a Richmond paper did a comprehensive series of articles a few years ago and it led to the governor publicly apologizing to the victims of this program.

BTW, Buck v. Bell has not been overturned. The state still has the right to sterilize any citizen if it determines he/she is not fit to breed. It isn't done so much now as it fell out of esteem with the marjority of the population.

Hitler used this case to support his version with obvious modifications.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:56 PM
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5. Hmmm wonder what Mommy Eunice thinks about Arnold's EUGENICS?
Wouldn't you like to be a roach in Dër Führer's dining room when Mommy Special Olympics comes-a-calling? Wonder if she approves of Arnold's idea of leading all the disabled into gas chambers?
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:08 AM
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6. Ah yes, Friendly Fascism. Looks like der Gropenfuhrer has learned PR well.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:10 AM by benfranklin1776
He is obvously taking a page from Junior's hollow playbook. The Rovian strategy is to pose for meaningless empty photo ops to create an artificial image of compassionate conservatism in order to divert attention from the wholesale screwing of the very group that you are touting the praises of.

See e.g. http://www.house.gov/appropriations_democrats/caughtonfilm.htm

Its time people woke up and started ignoring the televised PR garbage and looking at what they are doing. By their foul deeds you shall know them.
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