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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:53 PM
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Bob Kerrey in support of the war
The Wall Street Journal

The Left's Iraq Muddle (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that this is not his title - qe)
By BOB KERREY
May 22, 2007; Page A15

(snip)

What troubled me about this statement -- "democracy cannot be imposed with military force." -- is that those who say such things seem to forget the good U.S. arms have done in imposing democracy on countries like Japan and Germany, or Bosnia more recently.


Let me restate the case for this Iraq war from the U.S. point of view. The U.S. led an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein because Iraq was rightly seen as a threat following Sept. 11, 2001. For two decades we had suffered attacks by radical Islamic groups but were lulled into a false sense of complacency because all previous attacks were "over there." It was our nation and our people who had been identified by Osama bin Laden as the "head of the snake." But suddenly Middle Eastern radicals had demonstrated extraordinary capacity to reach our shores. As for Saddam, he had refused to comply with numerous U.N. Security Council resolutions outlining specific requirements related to disclosure of his weapons programs. He could have complied with the Security Council resolutions with the greatest of ease. He chose not to because he was stealing and extorting billions of dollars from the U.N. Oil for Food program.

No matter how incompetent the Bush administration and no matter how poorly they chose their words to describe themselves and their political opponents, Iraq was a larger national security risk after Sept. 11 than it was before. And no matter how much we might want to turn the clock back and either avoid the invasion itself or the blunders that followed, we cannot. The war to overthrow Saddam Hussein is over. What remains is a war to overthrow the government of Iraq.

(snip)

The critics who bother me the most are those who ordinarily would not be on the side of supporting dictatorships, who are arguing today that only military intervention can prevent the genocide of Darfur, or who argued yesterday for military intervention in Bosnia, Somalia and Rwanda to ease the sectarian violence that was tearing those places apart. Suppose we had not invaded Iraq and Hussein had been overthrown by Shiite and Kurdish insurgents. Suppose al Qaeda then undermined their new democracy and inflamed sectarian tensions to the same level of violence we are seeing today. Wouldn't you expect the same people who are urging a unilateral and immediate withdrawal to be urging military intervention to end this carnage? I would.

American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it. Al Qaeda in particular has targeted for abduction and murder those who are essential to a functioning democracy: school teachers, aid workers, private contractors working to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure, police officers and anyone who cooperates with the Iraqi government. Much of Iraq's middle class has fled the country in fear.

(snip)

This does not mean that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11; he was not. Nor does it mean that the war to overthrow him was justified -- though I believe it was. It only means that a unilateral withdrawal from Iraq would hand Osama bin Laden a substantial psychological victory. Those who argue that radical Islamic terrorism has arrived in Iraq because of the U.S.-led invasion are right. But they are right because radical Islam opposes democracy in Iraq. If our purpose had been to substitute a dictator who was more cooperative and supportive of the West, these groups wouldn't have lasted a week.

(snip)

Mr. Kerrey, a former Democratic senator from Nebraska and member of the 9/11 Commission, is president of The New School.

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117980246981610453.html (subscription)


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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:58 PM
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1. Bob Kerrey:
Someone whose time has been and gone.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:30 AM
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4. Yet I had to pause
as I was reading his example of Kosovo and Rwanda and Darfur. Because I did support the intervention in Kosovo and I wish that we were not stretched so thin so that we could send troops to Darfur.

Unless his comparison is not valid.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:58 PM
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2. shut up Bob Kerrey..you are nothing but a lying sac of crap! eom
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:27 AM
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3. Isn't There An Old Man Somewhere That Needs His Throat Slit
why can't him and LIEberman get a hotel room and leave us alone?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:05 AM
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5. Kerrey's SEAL team did their share of spreading freedom and democracy
Just ask their victims!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:47 AM
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6. It also doesn't hurt that Kerrey, et. al, Dem representatives, are invested up to their EYEBALLS
in stocks that prop up the Military Industrial Complex.

I wasn't joking by claiming that "We ALL work for Lockheed Martin, et. al., NOW!" :grr:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:26 PM
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7. War profiteering is a bipartisan industry
which makes it imperative we only support those Democrats that actually oppose the war, rather than engage in the charade we have seen so far from Reid and Nancy "impeachment is off the table" Pelosi.

The war funding bill must be defeated, barring that, the oil law provision must be stripped from the bill.
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