Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is Martial Law Coming? (By Matthew Rothschild for The Progressive)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:43 PM
Original message
Is Martial Law Coming? (By Matthew Rothschild for The Progressive)
Is Martial Law Coming?

May 29, 2007 By Matthew Rothschild

A note of caution since I wrote about Bush’s plans to anoint himself the insurer of constitutional government in the event of emergency.

I decided to see what the American Civil Liberties Union thought of the May 9 release of the National Security Presidential Directive, and to my surprise, the ACLU did not seem that concerned about it.

“These presidential directives on the continuity of government have existed for a long time,” says Mike German, ACLU policy counsel. “All it does is establish that they should have a policy and coordinate that policy with legislative and judiciary. It doesn’t change the order of succession, or anything like that.”

Plus, he praised the Bush Administration for making the document public, since previous ones have remained classified.

“I’m glad they made it public,” he says. “The fact that this was done in an open and transparent manner should be applauded.”

As to the substance of the document: “It’s impossible to know whether this is an attempt to usurp some authority that had otherwise not been contemplated by law,” German says.

It certainly is curious as to why the Bush Administration released the document. The last paragraph is entitled “Security,” and it states: “This directive and the information contained herein shall be protected form unauthorized disclosure, provided that, except for Annex A, the Annex’s attached to this directive are classified.”

But whatever the reason for the disclosure, the document is not reassuring, especially given Bush’s demonstrated disdain for the Constitution. .....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx0529b07

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. A little trip down Memory Lane: The Enabling Act of 1933 in Germany
Edited on Thu May-31-07 01:49 PM by no_hypocrisy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

"Under the existing Weimar constitution, under Article 48, the President could rule by decree in times of emergency. The unprecedented element of the Enabling Act was that the Chancellor himself possessed these powers. The Enabling Act was only supposed to be used in times of extreme emergency . . . "
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. wow, this sounds remarkably like
the rule by directive status currently in place in Venezuela! and everyone says that's a good thing, so how can this be bad?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Funny thing about rule by decree
It all boils down to who is doing the decreeing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. not really
absolute power is absolute power and dictatorships are dictatorships.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Yeah, but
Some folks who wouldn't like it here find if perfectly acceptable (or even applaud it) over there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. indeed
if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's going to get shot during duck season.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
4. For the first time the ACLU has let me down. If you combine the
Edited on Thu May-31-07 02:19 PM by higher class
extra wording, the arrogance and madness of President Cheney, and the statement that came out of the WH a couple of years ago - I think we can expect the worst if they do attempt anything.

They said that they were working on a progression succession sequence that replaces the existing and substitutes Cabinet members instead of the Constitution. Forget Pelosi.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:22 PM
Response to Original message
6. With What Army?
The armed forces are down for the count. The National Guard is exhausted. Even if either of them could, they wouldn't. They are not that stupid and they don't get paid to shoot their own.

Local police? Doubtful, if you eliminate LA.

Blackwater? Well, they can try, but I doubt there are that many bloodthirsty psychopaths in the US... and even they have families and neighbors.

The only way it happens is we LET it happen. I don't think this nation will.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Well, lets see.
There's all the State Police forces. There's all the County Sheriff's departments. There's all the city and town cops. Martial Law would federalize them all. There's INS, ATF, Coast Guard. Any federal agency that has an enforcement branch. Then there are all the private security forces - Blackwater is not the only one, by a long shot.

And DHS, to gather them all together under its umbrella.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. And AllThese Hotshots Are Gonna Shoot The Rest Of US?
I don't think so. Only certain people are that stupid, and they reside in Washington.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC