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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:46 PM
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Our Coming National Nightmare
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/8045

Our Coming National Nightmare
by Timothy Gatto | Jun 11 2007



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Like I said, these two documents together, under the light of day, bear some close scrutiny. Besides these, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 thrown into the mix makes for one scary scenario. Consider this;

A hurricane, Category 5, hits Tampa Florida, the result is a massive tidal surge into the harbor, and the death toll runs into the thousands. The National Guard is called out to stop looting and to protect people and property. The President, under his new “authority” calls up the Florida National Guard and gives them law enforcement powers. The storm, still churning, hits Jacksonville and heads towards the Atlantic, The Florida National Guard is stretched so thin that they can’t possibly handle the two cities that have been blindsided by this catastrophe.

Meanwhile the storm in the Atlantic reforms and heads towards Virginia as a category three and gaining strength, it veers into Washington DC and Maryland as a Category 4. Bush nationalizes the Maryland, DC and Virginia National Guard. There is looting in the Capitol, The President now declares Martial Law throughout the country. Congress is suspended, the Supreme Court is on hiatus, and we have a sitting dictator in the White House.

The people now start to react, and Bush calls out the National Guard in the contiguous 48 States, cancels the 2008 elections and declares a “State of Emergency”. The military now open sub-stations within every city and start to issue National ID Cards that all citizens must carry because we are on a threat level RED, called by the Director of Homeland Defense to a real or imagined crisis. The next thing that happens is that an explosion occurs at the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant and the President blames it on “Islamic Fundamentalists”. We now have a military dictatorship headed by the Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush.

Will it happen? I don’t know. Can it happen? In a word yes, it can. If Bush were to do something such as this he would be perfectly within his rights as the “decider”. It wouldn’t be a joke anymore. No citizen would be afforded the writ of Habeas Corpus. Anyone could be detained indefinitely for just about any reason. This is where we stand today.

Does this perk your interest, or is it too much to think about? I’m an American citizen that doesn’t like what he is seeing. I want everything put back to the way it was. I can’t do this alone but there is strength in numbers. We have the authority as citizens to put this right. Why don’t we, before it’s too late, or is it too late already? Just remember, I don’t make this stuff up.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:02 PM
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1. You know, if a president is going to suspend congress etc...
Why the need for an emergency in the first place? Why not just do it? Why all the griping over emergency powers when what is being described is so far illegal that one can scarcely imagine why an emergency would be needed at all.

Why, because of the Reichstagg thing? In Germany, what happened after that was all technically legal. It would not be technically legal in the US. At all. And everyone knows this. So why are people acting like lack of an emergency makes them any safer from emergency powers that go far beyond the limits of the constitution?
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:07 PM
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8. exactly
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:02 PM
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2. As a Katrina survivor, I know what you are saying. Our whole government
is more of a failure than it has ever been. We are not ssecure here in any way what so every. Regardless of whether its mother nature of human beings from the middle east, Bush is not protecting anyone but himself and his buds.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:05 PM
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3. It reminds me of the bagger in the movie Earthquake.
Bush is the bagger and he's in the national gard, but watch out for him after the earthquake cause he will shoot you or anybody else CAUSE HE WANTS TO.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:08 PM
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4. K&R!
The series of laws and Executive Orders make such an 'emergency" "legitimate" in the eyes of the power elite. Most of that elite will go along with dictatorship anyway, because it enriches them (or will); but others in the elite might not be so sanguine about our institutions and traditions. However, with a "state of emergency" and the establishing laws and executive orders, the whole of the elite would sign on. And it is this elite that is George Bush's only concern, not the "People", they mean nothing...
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:14 PM
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5. I would like to think it isn't too late, but lately I'm beginning to wonder.
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 02:17 PM by Double T
Is everything; the economy, business world, government, outsourcing, trade deficits, national debt, global warming, climate change, continual declining dollar, corruption, malfeasance, fraud, conspiracy; too far gone to ever be able to correct all of these monumental problems? bush's greatest dream is to be the dictator of the world and he still has 18 months left to do it.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:17 PM
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6. Huge potential mess for the US.
bush has given himself dictator status and he's gotten by with it.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:35 PM
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7. Why don't we?
Well - first of all - right now we're comfortable.
Yes, I know, there are exceptions. But by and large
we're warm (or cool) well-fed or overly so. We have
an OK house in an OK neighborhood. We've got a car or
cars...and we don't want to rock the boat.

Look at Cindy Sheehan. She put it all on the line,
and look at the results. So we don't have any core
of activists willing to do this.

Later, after your scenario has come to pass, we may
remember what Solzhenitsyn said. Or not.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror
at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn"

Bottom line - game over. Seriously. :evilfrown:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:12 PM
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9. Thanks for the thread babylonsister
Kicked and recommended
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:39 PM
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10. I am Truly Worried about the Emergency Powers Order
It has been used so often throughout history, and almost always for nefarious ends. Clearly, something is on Bush's mind or it would never have been issued.

I hope to God the conditions for it to be used successfully are never met.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:16 PM
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11. Just when you think it can't get any worse...
a scenario like this pops up. I don't trust these creeps to do anything but keep screwing up the intended methods the Founding Fathers envisioned for stopping abuse of Power. If three branches of government, were meant to separate, and check powers, these murdering, lying, thieves, will ruin it. If a Democratic President even thought about pulling this horsecrap, the Silent Majority, would come billowing out of their church pews after Sunday Sermon, and be fit to be tied. They won't preach against a Constitutional crisis if it's the Bush Cabal, who hands out the Faith-Based initiative dollars, doing it. Oh, well if we get a Democratic president, and he takes over as Dictator, an eyelash may bat somewhere, on a Republican.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 02:40 AM
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12. I believe that the commander guy is all prepped and ready to
step into his big boy dictator shoes, thing is, where will all these national guardsmen come from? They going to be shipped back from Iraq? Are there enough blackwater mercs to handle all 300 million of us?

I suspect they'll just kill us all off (in some highly sanitary way) and then sell the country off, parcel by parcel, to the highest bidders. Why futz around with a bunch of useless people?

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:27 AM
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13. if we do nothing, some sequence of events similar to this is bound to occur
we must continue to pressure congress to pressure this dangerous little man, and to restore the Rule of Law to our republic.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 08:50 AM
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14. More than anything...
More than anything, I think that barely mentioned and totally under-reported document from May 9th could pave the way to a second civil war. We don't need an environmental disaster, either. Just "some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor" - where have we heard THAT before? * declares his dictatorial powers and recalls Blackwater. They have no loyalty, and probably no problem shooting at American citizens. And our Army? I have a hard time seeing them obeying an order - even if it is from their Commander-in-Chief - to shoot at their families, friends and neighbors. So what will they do? Will sides be chosen?

Improbable? Yes.
Impossible? Not anymore...

Okay, gotta put my tinfoil hat away. Way too early...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 10:46 AM
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15. this WILL happen-- maybe not now, but as long as the power to do so...
...exists, someone will eventually wield it.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:27 PM
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16. kickin' more people need to see this. n/t
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