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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:44 AM
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Death by vomiting on ER Floor; Murder Weapon: Denial of Universal Health Insurance
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_070614_death_by_vomiting_on.htm

Death by vomiting on ER Floor; Murder Weapon: Denial of Universal Health Insurance

by Rob Kall

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The news networks are playing the tapes of the 911 dispatchers rejecting calls for emergency help. They should be following up on the recordings with commentary on the failure of the health care system. Instead, they are reporting that ERs don't have enough money. Blame that on the health care system too. That's a health care system that starves the health care providers too.

A toxicologist on CNN comments, "The problem here is the bureaucracy and the administration may have prevented her from getting care. But also, if she'd have gotten help sooner, she would never have gotten to this point."

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Edith Rodriguez is a highly visible case. But there are an estimated tens of thousands of people who die because they don't have health insurance. Compare that to the victims of 9-11 or the 3500 troops who were killed in Iraq. These victims were killed to-- by lobbyists, politicians and health insurance corporations. Where is the outcry. And for Edith Rodriguez, let's be sure that the right people and entities are accused.

A strong majority of Americans WANT universal, single payer health care.

Opponents cite how the Canadian health care system makes people wait. They don't mention that Canadians live three years longer. It's worth the wait. We need to put pressure on our legislators-- at state and national levels-- to pass laws making Universal health care happen now.

Legislators' failure to respond to this desperate need, affecting close to 50 million Americans, are contributing to the problem, accessories to murder, in cases like Edith Rodriquez and the tens of thousands of others who die and the hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions whose health is not what it could be if they had health care.

Yes, calling them accessories to murder is severe. If the shoe fits, wear it.

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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:54 AM
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1. i support universal health care
but this womans death has nothing to do with universal health care. it has to do with horrific hospital personnel who ignored her at a public hospital (which means they couldnt turn her away for not having insurance)

apparently this hospital has had a lot of problems and is in danger of losing federal funding and being shut due to these problems.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=121954


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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:03 AM
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3. did you read it?
her LACK OF CARE - due to having no insurance - led her to have to go to the emergency room
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:25 AM
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4. yes that is why i support universal health care
however the reason she did not receive care in the ER was not due to no insurance.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:11 AM
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5. How do you know that? Why wasn't she treated? I understand
the hospital has problems, but do you know her lack of insurance had nothing to do with it?
I'd like to see a link; thanks.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:43 AM
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6. go read stories about that hospital
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 10:46 AM by sabbat hunter
that hospital is in shambles and under all sorts of investigations for similar problems

hospitals BY law cannot refuse treatment to anyone in the emergency room. this goes double for public hospitals (which this one was)

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_6132668

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:03 PM
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2. I heard this at length on the radio yesterday. they told her to go to a different hospital
but no ambulance would take her because she was already at a hospital.

Wherever she landed would be fine if we had single payer.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:46 AM
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7. she didnt get treatmetn
because this hospital is incompetent not because ofa lack of insurance. go read stories about this hospital. it is so bad that it is in danger of being shut down. its chief of medicine was suspended by the county department of health (who runs this hospital as it is a public hospital)

she was ignored because of incompetence not lack of insurance.

htat being said i fully support single payer universal coverage. but situations like this can happen even under a single payer system if the people working at the hospital are incompetent (like in this case)

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_6132668
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