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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 09:37 AM
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NYT editorial: The "Grand Collapse" of immigration reform
The Grand Collapse
Published: June 30, 2007

The defeat of immigration reform in the Senate this week was appalling, not so much because an ambitious bill died, but because of how stubbornly, to the bitter end, the process remained disconnected from reality. The bill crumpled on the Senate floor on Thursday in a procedural vote, with two-thirds of Republicans swarming to kill it. They shrouded their act with the same rhetorical distortions and ritual incantations — death to amnesty! — that have polluted the debate all along.

Two Republicans, Jeff Sessions and Jim DeMint, hailed the demise of an attempt at immigration reform as a victory for the American people. Victory, maybe, if you favor semiporous borders, rotting crops and millions of people growing old overseas as they wait to enter legally. If you want federal officials to keep thimble-dipping the immigrant ocean with raids and detentions that shatter families and cripple businesses, and state and local governments to go on erecting a ramshackle grid of disjointed immigration policies, then this debacle was for you.

The bill’s defeat also thwarted the possibility of progress on border security, stricter employment laws and an orderly future flow of workers. To top it off, by foreclosing legitimacy for millions of illegal immigrants, Republicans brusquely told Hispanic-Americans what they can do with their votes and hopes.

There was pretending on the other side, too. Senator Edward M. Kennedy, defending the teetering bill, likened it to the great acts of civil rights days. With respect to Mr. Kennedy and his allies, the bill was not even close. Its good provisions were anchored to bedrock delusions: that fixing immigration is simply a job of building fences and punishing illegal workers. The fishy “grand bargain” began to rot as soon as it was unwrapped, as advocates for immigrants kept accepting one bad amendment after another in the hope that this bill — or any bill, please — was better than nothing, and that bad things would somehow be removed later.

Their desperation showed, and when talk radio got a frenzy going — Capitol phones crashed as the crucial vote loomed — nothing good could withstand the hot wind blowing across the Hill....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/30/opinion/30sat1.html?hp
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 09:39 AM
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1. It was a bad bill...Simple as that
Edited on Sat Jun-30-07 09:39 AM by youngdem
Bush is not the man for the task.

Even his own troops distrusted his motives.

A bill such as this one is bad for the American worker, which is why it was proposed in the first place.

Good riddance to a bad bill.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 09:54 AM
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2. Why is it America's problem that millions of people are growing old overseas?
Edited on Sat Jun-30-07 09:54 AM by kurth
Crops rotting in the field because there are no workers - from among the 12 million - willing to pick them?

What horseshit.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 12:20 PM
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3. I like the part about "crippling" business.
Let us never forget that "the liberal New York Times" is actually the voice of the establishment.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-01-07 02:14 AM
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4. You can always count on the Screw York Times to defend the rich
They won't utter a peep about the real reason we have illegals coming to work here because NAFTA and GATT wrecked their local economies
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