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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:19 PM
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Someone help me out here
Here's a short editorial that someone wrote that I plan to respond to: Two more uh, er, patriots weigh in with crocodile tears about how horrible it is that Libby, Rowe, Cheney and Bush are not being hung for treason. Oh, boohoo. Here's something for these uh,er patriots to chew on. Plame lied about having nothing to do with sending her Bush-hating husband to Niger. Her vainglorious husband lied about what he found in Niger in a clumsy attempt to embarass Bush in the midst of an election campaign. A federal judge just threw out the Wilson's lawsuit. At least someone knows a couple of grifters when he sees them.

I'm sure the accusations of Joe and Valerie lying are bogus but it's hard to debunk them when I have no idea what he's even referring to. Can someone tell me where this is coming from?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 05:51 PM
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1. the lawsuit was dismissed becasue the judge did not have jurisdiction
He NEVER dealt with the substance of the Wilson's accusations, so grifting was not in the decision.

If Joe Wilson lied, why is it that nukes were never found in Iraq? Plame was confirmed by her supervisors (testifying in court) that she did not send Joe. Did they commit perjury?

However, this person is simply parroting the most vicious of the Rightwinger's propoganda points about Valerie and Joe. They can be found in a thousand places around the web, and they are all wrong. You will get nowhere trying to change their minds, and they will simply rejoice that they were able to needle you and you jumped. Ignore their irrelevant bull. If you showed them proof they would find some other reason to scoff.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:33 PM
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2. thanks for the info
i plan to respond to this article not to change the person's mind but because i think some of the people that read the op-ed are ignorant enough to believe his b.s.
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 07:00 AM
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3. The Uranium
Joe Wilson was sent to investigate was said to come from a French owned mine. It was easy enough to prove the document false. The Uranium would have amounted to 200 truck loads. The mine documents every truck load when it leaves the mine the truck loads then have to documented by the government for export then have to be documented by the shipping company handling nuclear materials. Wilson checked with the French mine owners no such truck loads, no export documents or shipping records. That is the reason Wilson was able to prove it was false so quickly. Cheney screwed up by sending someone competent.
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