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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:05 PM
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What to Do With Cheney?
What to Do With Cheney?
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-08-15 18:19. Impeachment

The politics of impeachment
by Jon Basil Utley, Antiwar.com

Bush and Cheney have little to lose from spreading the war, but the Republican Party has very much to lose. Its only way out is to impeach Cheney. That would bring Bush back to reality and alleviate the main pressure upon him to expand the wars.

A new war, $5/gal. gasoline (as analyst Jim Cramer has warned), and a possible crash of globalization as Korea, Japan, China, and Europe reel from oil shortages would be the ruin of the Republican Party for a generation. "Republicans are watching their private poll numbers plunge," says Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. Already senators up for reelection are becoming desperate. The poll landscape shows "Republicans who ought to be completely secure are maybe in the upper 40s, low 50s, and weaker ones being blown away in landslides." And this was even before the latest battle on immigration, which "may well have cost it the Hispanic vote for a generation." (The Economist, Aug. 11, 2007.)

Much evidence points toward administration plans to extend the war to Iran. The risk of such a war getting out of hand and destroying or blockading much of the world's oil supplies is enormous. At the very least it would make Europe even more dependent upon Russian energy, make America even more of a pariah in the Muslim world, and make extraction of U.S. troops from Iraq even more problematic. For other results, see "12 Consequences of Attacking Iran."

The president, according to many visitors, seems almost spaced out, oblivious to his unpopularity and the disasters he has created. We already know how his religious beliefs are a mix of End Times eschatology and self-righteousness, combined with daily readings of Scottish philosopher Oswald Chambers, who idealized warfare and preached that divinely guided decisions will be vindicated and seemingly negative feedback may be proof that God is there, testing your faith, strengthening your resolve.

Constantly we hear of Bush's concerns that after he leaves office, a new American president will not bomb Iran, so he must do it now. And he is being urged on by Cheney's neoconservatives while the Armageddonites demand that Bush protect Israel now so God can destroy it later, in His way, along with most of the rest of humanity. Of course, Israel, with 200 of its own nukes, can easily defend itself, and Iran is subject to deterrence just like the Soviets once were. They are no crazier than some of our guys. This is already widely recognized, as a new poll shows that 45 percent of Americans support impeachment for Bush (and 54 percent want Cheney impeached). Furthermore, Karl Rove may have resigned because he can’t dissuade Bush from attacking Iran, and he wants to be well clear of the political consequences.

Before Iraq, we used to hear from neoconservatives how displaying America's destructive power would shock and awe other Arabs and Muslims so that neighboring nations would then obey American orders (and Palestinians would "behave"). It didn't work out that way. Again Bush is being fed a misreading of Third World psychology, especially that of Muslims – that after a week's bombing of Iran, war will be contained, as Iran would not dare to fight back. However, this discounts all of history, in which wars, once started, often lead to very wide and unforeseen consequences. At the very least, the Iranian regime would use a U.S. attack to inflame nationalism and gain the legitimacy to stay in power by cracking down on domestic opposition. It would also make the long supply line through Shia Iraq even more vulnerable.

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:08 PM
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1. Pray he has Chinese batteries in his pacemaker. n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:12 PM
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2. Rather a nice idea
I was thinking more along the lines of something that would likely result in "name removed, post deleted"
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:57 PM
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7. I figured what I said would avoid that. n/t
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:25 PM
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3. "What to do with Cheney?"
I could give into fantasies and say more, but I'm sure I would then be receiving a knock on my door by men wearing suits, sunglasses and earpieces. I believe I'd rather avoid being sent to Guantanimo!!
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:30 PM
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4. All the stories like this have a fundamental flaw in them.
(bush's) religious beliefs are a mix of End Times eschatology and self-righteousness, combined with daily readings of Scottish philosopher Oswald Chambers, who idealized warfare and preached that divinely guided decisions will be vindicated and seemingly negative feedback may be proof that God is there, testing your faith, strengthening your resolve.

Every piece like this that I've read insert something like this to try to "explain" why bush "believes in what he is doing." I don't buy it. Bush knows this is an utter disaster, and I think that's exactly what he (and his neocon cabal) wants because it somehow provides them "cover" while they empty the treasury. In other words, bush's motives are completely nefarious. I think people who ascribe all of this to "religious beliefs" are trying to create some kind of sympathy for bush. "He means well, but he is misguided by his religion." I don't think so.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:44 PM
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6. I'm in total agreement. I don't think he has a religious bone in his body. nt
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 02:18 PM
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10. George"Elmer Gantry" Bush
is a huckster.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:40 PM
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5. To the tune of "How do you solve a problem like Maria" from Sound of Music
How do you solve a problem like Dick Cheney?
How do you catch some scum and bring it down?
How do you find the words that mean Dick Cheney?
A psychotic madman? A draft dodging coward? A clown?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:59 PM
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8. Compost
Too toxic for any other use. Or there's Yucca Mountain, if the composting process can't break down the poisons.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:01 PM
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9. That's a good question
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 07:01 PM by Cobalt-60
I put aside my first idea - a re enactment of Mussolini's capture with him in the starring role- and actually considered the idea.
He's done so much evil that his own best interrogator couldn't apply enough punishment.
He richly deserves to be dancing Danny Deever with the other fascist stars.
This, however, results in this cur being made a martyr by the surviving elements of the fascist press.
I think life in solitary confinement will do the job.
He'd be suffering without slaves, luxuries or power. If monitored visitors were limited to immediate family members there would be no Cheney "Mien Kampf" published in 2011.
And then just let the *sshole rot.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:55 AM
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11. The ancient Egyptians had the right idea. When a pharoah went out of favor,


all written and pictured references to him were erased. IOW he was removed from history.

Ole' CrashCart would be a perfect candidate for that treatment.
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