More church-state violations: DHS to use "Clergy Response Teams" to help "government" if martial law

[rodeodance]

http://www.correntewire.com/dhs_to_use_clergy_response_teams_to_help_government_if_martial_law_is_declared


DHS to use "Clergy Response Teams" to help "government" if martial law is declared
Submitted by lambert on Thu, 2007-08-16 15:39.

..........I swear I’m not making this up! KSLA, Shreveport:

Could martial law ever become a reality in America? Some fear any nuclear, biological or chemical attack on U.S. soil might trigger just that. KSLA News 12 has discovered that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us.

Hey, who said Katrina didn’t have a silver lining?

Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff’s Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team’s mission, “the primary thing that we say to anybody is, ’let’s cooperate and get this thing over with and then we’ll settle the differences once the crisis is over.’”

Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. “In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they’re helping to diffuse that situation,” assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, “because the government’s established by the Lord, you know. And, that’s what we believe in the Christian faith. That’s what’s stated in the scripture.”

[pingzing58]

1. Romans 13 presupposes that the Government seeks the common good of the people and not evil.

But if the Government has proven itself to do evil and seek a lust for power then the Christian has no responsibility to cooperate, support or encourage such governing authority. It's the same argument used by Hitler or Bush or any Government authority who believe that God has given them a mandate to rule over people and nations. Sandy Davis has been duped by the devil into handing over innocent people to be imprisoned by a government who has no authority from God.

[intaglio]

4. Romans 13 v1-7 from Bible Gateway

New International Version
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2013

Or in The King James Version
13
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Romans+13

Hey! I guess that means the Literalists must believe the War of Independence was wrong!

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[Ilsa]

6. No wonder the Chimperor and his minions are pushing the idea that

God placed him there. They are looking for total control.

[GeorgeGist]

2. Beware of false prophets

It may become necessary to separate the clergy from their government; permanently.

[Maraya1969]

3. Never understood why people announce this...now I do. K&R

[AndyTiedye]

5. It Worked for Hitler

[tom_paine]

9. Yes, it always seems to work...at least for a time.

n/t

[Joanne98]

7. The fifth column. Homeland Security was a huge mistake!

[bobthedrummer]

8. "Milwaukee Genesis: Where George W. Bush's 'Faith-Based' initiative really comes from"

by Phil Wilayto 3-11-2001
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=37

More background on this, a cross-post from an informative parent thread
"'Neoconservatism' and how Wisconsinites worked alliances" (posted 8-15-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21683#21874

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