Why Obama?

[patrioticintellect]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kevin_go_070824_why_obama_3f.htm

[MethuenProgressive]

1. One of the few things I like about Obama:

"If we have actionable intelligence on al Qaeda operatives, including bin Laden, and President Musharraf cannot act, then we should," Obama said. "That's just common sense." -B.O.
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The trouble with common sense is that its not so common.
We had the whole world with us when we struck out to revenge the attacks of 9.11.01,
and today it seems the whole world is against us because Bush sidetracked us into the quagmire of Iraq. Kill bin Laden if we can, whether the military dictator (and that's all he is) of Pakistan OK's it or not.

[patrioticintellect]

4. One problem

Al-Qaeda had no connection with Iraq. We all bought into it. We didn't bother to have a debate or discuss the possibilities of what could go wrong if we acted with a pre-emptive strike. Just read the Sen. Byrd speech.

The future is looking bleak. It seems that our senators and representatives are going to make the same mistakes. They are going to let the Bush administration/neoconservatives manufacture a war. They are going to let them cook up a war and say that Iran has connections with al-Qaeda. Or they are going to say intervene in Pakistan and start a war there.

Obama and Hillary's candidacies add to this repeat of the same mistakes because they aren't outright saying they support invading Iran but they have signed the resolutions condoning getting involved in Iran. Their foreign policy stances mean the same for America in regards to foreign policy.

It's sad but true.

[MethuenProgressive]

5. "Al-Qaeda had no connection with Iraq." No shit, Sherlock.

:eyes:

[patrioticintellect]

9. No shit, Sherlock?

Way to remove what I said from context and attack me for "stating the obvious". Did you even get what I said or did it fly right over your head?

[Nimrod2005]

2. Amen...nt

[mikekohr]

3. Obama will bring U.S. together again

Aug. 24, 2007 | WASHINGTON -- It was sort of like finding a Christmas tree in a cornfield. In late July and early August, Iowa Republican voters were asked to name their choice for president in a University of Iowa poll. Mitt Romney, who leads most Iowa surveys, got 22 percent of the total. Rudy Giuliani came in second with 10 percent. But third place went to a Democrat, Barack Obama, who got nearly 7 percent -- more than Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Sam Brownback combined.
Not to worry: The Obama campaign isn't likely to join the Grand Old Party, and pollsters are convinced that Obama has exactly zero chance of winning the Republican caucus in Iowa. But something is going on. "I don't want to make too much of it," says David Redlawsk, the professor who commissioned the poll. "But I do think that the message Obama is putting out right now is the most likely to reach across party lines."

There are other signs of Obama's crossover appeal. Over the last several months, Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster, has been holding focus groups for various media organizations like Fox News to find out what the public thinks of the presidential candidates. "I would ask Republicans, 'Which Democratic candidate would you accept? Who would you consider to vote for?'" Luntz says. "Obama would get more than everybody else combined. Hillary and Edwards have no crossover voters."

A recent poll by the Washington Post and ABC News revealed a third data point in Obama's favor: When asked in July which Democratic candidate has the best chance to defeat a Republican in a general election, Republicans and independents were more likely than Democrats to pick Obama over Clinton. In fact, among Democrats, only 22 percent said Obama was the best general election candidate, while 54 percent flagged Clinton as the best in the general election. But among Republicans, 33 percent said Obama was the best candidate, and 37 percent said Hillary. In other words, Republicans were about 11 points more likely than Democrats to see Obama as the best shot for a Democratic White House.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/08/24/obama_gop/


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mike kohr

[MethuenProgressive]

6. Together? By being Democratic Party's most divisive candidate?

We won't win if the Party is torn apart.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. the comments were more interesting. Especially the last one.

I would urge people to read the 11th comment as it is very insightful.

[patrioticintellect]

8. the one after the last one is better

The 12th comment is more insightful.