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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:59 AM
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Last Chance Saloon: Will the Democrats Stand Up to George Bush's Ridiculous Offer?
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Last Chance Saloon: Will the Democrats Stand Up to George Bush's Ridiculous Offer?
by Cenk Uygur | Sep 12 2007


Word has just come out that President Bush will offer to take out 30,000 troops from Iraq by next August -- maybe, if all of his conditions are met. So, that would leave us in the same exact place we were in November of 2006 when the American people sent the message that we should withdraw from Iraq.

This is like a department store raising prices by a 100% one day and then having a "50% Off Sale" the next day. It's not much to brag about. In fact, it's a cheap salesman's trick.

President Bush's strategy all along has been to run out the clock until he can hand off Iraq to the next president -- and then claim they screwed it up. This is one giant reprehensible game to avoid blame for the catastrophe in Iraq. The president wants to be able to say that the dog ate his homework and that's why Iraq didn't work out. I keep hearing that Shaggy song running through my head, "It wasn't me! It wasn't me!"

If it hadn't been for those darn Democrats everything he did would have worked out okay. Except in this scenario, hundreds, if not thousands, of more Americans will die and get their arms and legs blown off so that George Bush can feel a little better about himself. How many more American lives is George Bush's ego worth?

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This is last chance saloon. I am genuinely curious. Is it possible that the Democrats have one more fold in them? It seems too irrational for the imagination to bear. Or can they stand up for themselves -- and for us -- for the first time in such a long time? That also seems hard to imagine. I can't recollect what a strong Democratic Party looked like. It seems like a foreign concept now.

How is it going to go? What will they do? Will they stand? This is real drama. I don't know the answer, and I'm not sure I want to.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:01 AM
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1. We need folks with some balls in D.C.!
Simply amazing that impeachment hasn't caught on them yet.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:03 AM
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2. It's so hard to believe that this little man who has failed at everything
his entire life is riding roughshod over our government. This is why I don't watch horror movies.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:14 AM
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7. It is astounding, isn't it. I can't stop wondering where the spines are. nt
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:29 AM
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9. Life under Bushco IS a horror movie....
And DU is one of, if not THE, best theater!

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:42 AM
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17. And Maybe Some Clubs, Too
Under Teddy R.'s Walk softly and carry big stick theory of government.

You know, by ignoring the grassroots and our demands for impeachment and defunding and deauthorizing war, the Democrats are throwing their club away?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:10 AM
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3. There's nothing the Democrats can do. They've got to keep their
powder dry, you know.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:13 AM
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5. Actually, no they don't:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:50 AM
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16. Of course they can end it. I just fear they won't, and we'll get the
same sorry excuses.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:13 AM
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4. No.
They won't.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:14 AM
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6. Oh, ye of little faith! nt
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:35 AM
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10. That's me...and,
I sent your video post to the greatest page with the 5th rec.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:17 AM
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13. Why thank you! I thought that youtube was
good and informative. I have it tucked away to pull out whenever I hear someone whining about not having enough numbers to accomplish anything.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:19 AM
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14. It's not lack of numbers...
it's lack of spine.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:24 AM
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8. here`s my opinion
they`ll give him what he wants....... :cry:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:50 AM
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11. will they get a guarantee that these troops won't be replaced by contractor employees . . .
who will cost us quadruple the money? . . .
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:09 AM
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12. I suspect they will stand up ...
and say 'I can't say NO'
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:26 AM
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15. Not just pass "blame", but "take credit" if Dem Prez successful.
Not only is the White House looking to pass Iraq off to the next President... which they know will be a Democrat... so if a disaster occurs after pulling out, they can blame the Democrats and not themselves...

But ALSO

If the actions of the Democratic President result in a stable Iraq with functioning government and an end to the violence, YOU KNOW they will take credit for that as well, claiming that their goal of "a free Iraq" was thanks to them and Bush's "vision".
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