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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:02 PM
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America’s Moral Crisis
America’s Moral Crisis
Written by Andrew Bard Schmookler
Sunday, 16 September 2007



Many Americans feel a sense of alarm about the moral condition of American society today.

Many in the liberal half of America worry that the political right has been taken over by amoral forces that only pretend to be righteous while they indulge their lust for power and wealth. Many in the conservative half of America fear that America’s moral integrity has been eroded by an “anything goes” culture abetted by the moral permissiveness of contemporary liberalism.

Both these worries are well-founded.


Indeed, these two moral crises — the rise of fascistic forces in the political realm and the degradation of values in the cultural realm–are two sides of the same coin.

The purpose of this site is to put the pieces together, to provide a clear and integrated picture of the moral crisis now besetting America. It is a vision that offers both good news and bad.

The bad news is that the crisis is much bigger than you probably suspect. The good news is that the same vision that reveals the magnitude of this crisis also suggests a strategy for successfully meeting our present challenge.

Bigger than the Bush presidency

First, the bad news. If you see the problem simply in terms of the current presidency, the bad news is that our crisis goes much deeper than that.

Even looking only at the political realm, this presidency should be seen as manifestation of the success of a set of amoral forces that have worked for a generation to take over the county. And these are forces that will work to maintain their grip on power even when their present public faces leave office.

Never in the history of this nation has so much power been in such ruthless hands.

But it’s bigger still, extending beyond the arena of power. The success of these unscrupulous forces –arising from the political right– is due in part to a more general unraveling of the moral fabric of America. And in this deterioration –reflected, for example, in our trashy popular culture– the liberal half of America has played an important role.

So it is not just a problem with “them,” as most of us in polarized America believe, but with “us” –all of us — as a whole cultural system. All of America is now challenged to regain its moral vision.

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http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/2412/1/
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:37 PM
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1. the Reich Wing juggles Morality... the liberals deal in Ethics, not Morality.. you have confused the
2 and over simplified the situation thus wrongly giving blame to the liberals for what perversions of the ReThugs.,

morality is used to defend an argument you cant win... morality ends any conversation or debate.. it is used to avoid the truth. it only relates to religion
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:47 PM
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2. First off, I didn't write that. And I don't buy your premise. We all
'should' be concerned about morality as well as ethics. Morality is the conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct, while ethics are defined as moral principles, as of an individual: His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence. There's not much separation there.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:57 PM
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3. repeating another's error is your error also
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:02 PM
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4. Not if I don't agree it's an error. Have a nice night. nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:22 AM
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6. case in point, that is the problem... with Morality.. it is conviently black and white.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 07:56 AM
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8. Not at all black and white if you can't agree on what's wrong and right. nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:24 PM
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10. that is just it.. morality is based on good and evil, ..there isnt any evil..your good is anothers
misery, cultural genocide, slavery.. the Sudan is a moralist genicide, good for the Arabs and chinese.. bad for the Sudaneese.. you can have it both ways but it usually isnt ethical
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:54 PM
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5. Thank you.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:59 AM
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7. Do you think that millions of Americans are waiting for approval to be moral? n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 07:57 AM
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9. No, but I think they have some really shitty role models. nt
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