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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:03 PM
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Be careful, and talk to your friends in the military By Carol Wolman
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_carol_wo_070916_be_careful_2c_and_talk.htm


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September 16, 2007





Mysterious deaths are on the rise. Remember the nuclear- tipped cruise missiles which were illegally flown across the US from Minot AFB on August 30th 2007? Turns out 4-6 young airmen from the base have died, separately, under mysterious circumstances while on leave, all since July 1st, 2007. One, pilot, Todd Blue, has died since August 30th. These are healthy young men in their 20's. http://geronimomanifesto.blogspot.com/

Then there's the case of Congressman Paul Gillmor: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20649320/
Updated: 12:34 a.m. ET Sept. 8, 2007
COLUMBUS, Ohio - U.S. Rep. Paul Gillmor, who was found dead in his apartment in suburban Washington earlier this week, died of blunt head and neck trauma consistent with a fall down stairs, according to a medical examiner’s report released Friday.
This death was first reported as (mysterious) "natural causes", seemingly plausible for someone 68 years old.

Then, a couple days later, the blunt-force head and neck trauma involved came out. This was immediately claimed as above, "consistent with a fall down stairs", though one should expect to see trauma to more than the head and neck in such a fall. Rep. Gilmor was investigating the recent "put actions" placed upon the market, gambling that there would be a 50% drop in the market between Sep.14 and Sep. 21, like the put actions placed preceding 9/11/01.

What about the fact that 3/7 of the brave young sergeants in Iraq who dared publish the truth about what is going on there in an NYT op-ed on Aug. 18th, 2007 have since experienced deadly assaults? Two died in a motor vehicle accident, one was shot in the head but survived.





Authors Website: http://voteCarolWolmanforCongress.com

Authors Bio: Carol S. Wolman, MD is a psychiatrist in Northern California. A lifelong peace activist, she has written extensively on the psychology of our times. She is actively working to impeach Bush and Cheney, and suggests you join or form a local group at http://impeachbush.meetup.com/ She ran for Congress as a nonpartisan write-in candidate in CA district 1, and is a coordinator of The Longhouse Coalition.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:08 PM
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1. Good to know that a paranoid nut is running for Congress. This should
really elevate the political discourse.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:23 PM
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2. She has done more than you have
Please explain which parts of the OP are wrong.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:29 PM
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3. LOL! Won't even bother. She's spreading misinformation and paranoid bullshit conspiracy
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 08:29 PM by wienerdoggie
theories. Hope she has a rational opponent running against her--this gal is NOT fit for public office.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:37 PM
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4. Please give links so we can all make informed judgements.
Sometimes its tough knowing whats going on because I see two sides going back and forth on issues and I only see one side presenting something.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:42 PM
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11. Most of the links no longer work here the threads have disappeared
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 11:22 PM by sce56
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:44 PM
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5. Then please explain, using your obvious
brilliance and wisdom, why and how so many young, healthy men from the Minot AFB would suddenly die while ON LEAVE, and not in combat, all within such a very short time, and around or right after the time when nukes were "accidentally" flown across the country to an AFB that is one of the main bases where ME transports originate from? Because it just doesn't make any sense. I'm in SD, so we're a lot more interested in, and knowledgeable about, these deaths.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:08 PM
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9. The driver of this car admitted going 70 in a 25 zone, wrecked
and killed his passenger, Adam Barrs, hardly mysterious, 20 yr olds driving recklessly and getting in accidents. Neither ofthese 2 are in the munitions unit.

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/06/news/local/135793.txt

Jul 06, 2007 - 04:14:36 CDT
By JENNY MICHAEL
Bismarck Tribune
The North Dakota Highway Patrol has identified a man from Minot Air Force Base who was killed when the vehicle he was riding in hit a tree and caught fire.

Adam Barrs, 20, was declared dead on the scene after being extricated from the 2006 Nissan on Tuesday night near Minot's Souris Golf Course.

The vehicle's driver, Stephen Garrett, 20, was able to get out of the vehicle and was taken to Trinity Hospital for treatment.

The men, both of whom were active duty military at the base, were traveling west on 14th Avenue when the car failed to negotiate a curve, according to a news release. It left the road and entered the south ditch while rotating clockwise and then hit an approach.

The car then turned onto the driver's side and hit a tree, rotated counterclockwise, came to rest on its left side and caught fire.

Both men were wearing seat belts, and air bags did deploy. Alcohol was not a factor, and the case is being investigated.

http://www.kxmc.com/News/162245.asp

Driver in fatal crash charged with negligent homicide

MINOT, N.D. (AP) The driver of a car involved in a crash that killed an airman from Minot Air Force Base in July has been charged with felony negligent homicide.

Authorities say 20-year-old airman Stephen Garrett was the driver of the car in which 21-year-old Adam Barrs was killed.

Court documents say Garrett failed to negotiate a curve on the outskirts of Minot. The car crashed and caught fire. An autopsy showed Barrs died of head and neck injuries suffered in the crash.

The Highway Patrol says Garrett told a trooper that he was driving about 70 miles an hour at the time of the crash. The posted speed limit in the area is 25.

Garrett's preliminary appearance has been set for September 25th in Northwest District Court in Minot.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:24 PM
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10. How about YOU name to ME all the men who died and then show me
their DIRECT CONNECTION to the nuke story. Not just that they were stationed at Minot--that's a big base, lots of groups and squadrons. Tell me WHY their deaths are mysterious. It's not up to ME to prove this story is bogus. It's up to the people perpetuating it on the internets to link to reliable sources. I have read about these airmen, and the circumstances of their deaths, and I KNOW this story is bullshit. And by the way, I spent four years at Ellsworth and Rapid--I'm baffled by your claim that SD would have any special knowledge about ND or Minot deaths--there's no relationship between those bases.
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:49 PM
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7. Dr. Wolman's Opinion...
...of the book, "The Madness of George W. Bush," by Paul Levy:

“The Jungian analysis by Paul Levy, of Bush and the culture which maintains him, reaches deep into the American psyche. It should be studied and digested by everyone. If the citizenry would recognize that Bush’s egomania is acting out a national illness, we would all be saner. If the US could integrate the “shadow” which Bush projects upon the “the axis of evil,” perhaps we could achieve world peace and start to solve global problems. A MUST READ.”
-Carol S. Wolman, MD, Board Certified in Psychiatry

She sounds cool to me...
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:01 PM
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8. Yes and Pat Tillman was killed by the Taliban to!


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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:59 PM
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12. I guess you don't believe in conspiracy theories right? Then if that is true then you would not
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 11:00 PM by sce56
believe in the theory that some cave man in Afghanistan was able to defeat the most modern, sophisticated and lethal military in the world. And check the FBI most wanted web site Osama Bin Laden is not wanted for 9-11!
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:47 PM
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6. Todd Blue wasn't a pilot - as wrongly stated in the OP
he was an SP A1C - the Air Force equivalent of a PFC.

If 4-6 Airmen (which is it 4 or 6 to start with) from Minot have "died under mysterious circumstances, please name them and what you believe is mysterious about their deaths.

No one from the munitions unit that caused the incident has died.

complete BS.

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