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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 03:40 PM
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Political Polls. Seabirds of Revolution?
Political polls. Seabirds of Revolution?

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Political polls are rife and they unequivocally indicate that a substantial majority of American citizens are deeply opposed to nearly ALL the policies of the Bush/Republican (alias, Bush/Democrat) administration.

Interestingly, the polls consistently demonstrate that the conflict is less between Republicans and Democrats (Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber), than between Americans and our one party dem/pug political establishment.

But a country in which the proven majority is dominated by a coterie of unconstitutional criminals is, by definition, a totalitarian dictatorship. Hence, the polls are putting the emPHAsis on the right sylLAHble (as an only debate coach of mine used to put it), i.e., the core conflict is not between the Democratic Congress and George W. Bush, because the Democratic Congress effectively IS George W. Bush.

Rather, the core conflict is something we have rarely seen in American history. It is quite literally a life and death conflict between our pseudo representative's and the Constitutional Republic honored by the vast majority of the American people. Corporate propaganda notwithstanding, Washington's treasonous political puppets of America's Dictatorship of the Rich are on a different planet from grass roots Americans

So, the tipping point is now. Either Americans will yawn their way ever deeper into this fascist, neocon dictatorship or they will walk the walk, not just talk the talk, where walking the walk means some kind of VERY organized and VERY aggressive political and/or apolitical activism.

Said differently, we have run out of options. The "Democratic" Party and our national media have sold their souls to corporate fascism and the treacherous neocon lobby (which has NEVER lobbied for the national security and well being of the United States of America).

So, rigged elections, a ONE party political system, a Judas media, nutcase Armageddon "Big Bang" religious fanatics, and the profoundly un-American neocon cabal, doesn't leave us much wiggle room, doesn't it? Especially since "we" are around 75% of the country according to all the polls.

An analogy which works here is that America is now like a physical system in which homeostasis is no longer possible, hence some kind of radical change is inevitable. Too many wires have been crossed. Too many wheels have come off. Too many fail safe parameters for the status quo have been arrogantly ignored.

The greed of the elites and the pathology of religious fanatics has gone ballistic. The "political game" is that the majority of Americans have political representatives who represent and arbitrate their interests and values, but now we know this game is insultingly meaningless, hence apolitical forces have been passionately loosened.

The thing is, when homeostasis goes, all bets are off on what happens to the system. And when the homeostasis of AN ENTIRE COUNTRY is lost, anything is possible! Pandora's Box is now wide open.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

More from Bill at: <http://theliberationofrealism.blogspot.com/>
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 03:51 PM
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1. It is what I see, as well, Bill.
Something terrible is a-brewing, something horrific and tragic and Pandora's Box-like.

No one can say what, specifically, that will be, only that it will certainly be here within 30 years and perhaps a whole lot less.

"Homeostasis"..what an excellent analogy.

I am jealous of you for thinking of it instead of me. :evilgrin:

Thanks for this post, Bill. It adds to the dialogue

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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:24 PM
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4. kind feedback
Thank you for your kind feedback. It's funny, the moment the phrase came out "And when the homeostasis of AN ENTIRE COUNTRY is lost, anything is possible," I knew I had managed to hit a deep, deep chord, because that's EXACTLY how it feels to me. We are a country which has totally lost its homeostasis, and God only know where things are going to go next.

solidarity, Bill
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:48 PM
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12. Gore Vidal plays some riffs on the same tragic themes.
He's been around quite a while and is truly America's man of letters.

When he says he is afraid for the country, it must mean something.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:06 PM
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2. More in this theme:
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 05:32 PM
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3. The next election may be the last
I truly believe our republic, much like Rome in the time of Julius Ceaser, is in a sudden death countdown. Either we proceed as a democracy or we fall prey to dictatorship----Like every other empire before us.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:34 PM
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5. next election?
I too believe they might try to cancel it. These criminals know that their only safety is to be where our laws and constitution "aren't". But, I think they underestimated the genius of our forefathers. Our Ship of State is not going to be so easily sunk as they think. We haven't run out of fail safes and the bluster of a bully usually turns out to be sound and fury signifying nothing. It's not going to take too many more pins to send this toxic balloon out to deep space. Their arrogance is their vulnerability and by GOD when we get them dead to rights, the world will hear a symphony of slamming prison doors.

Bottom line, my act of faith is that our magnificent Constitution will never abandon us. Softly, softy, catchee monkey.

Solidarity, Bill
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:37 PM
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6. Well said.
I think things might continue as they are for a year or two yet. But maybe not. The real point is that that is not in our control anymore.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:47 PM
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7. "Bottom line, very rich people have GOT TO GO." In all your words these are the truest.

They are now our masters. They own the government, lock, stock, and barrel. Executive, Legislative, Judiciary, and the fourth branch, media. All put in place by the political contributions of the very rich.

Don't believe all the excuses you hear about the 'spineless Democrats'. They are not spineless. They are just following orders. How many of our legislators are financially in the same position as most of us? Can you come up with a handful even? Probably not. Sure they get their government salary for having "Honorable" put before their name. But they also get six figure rewards for speaking to their sponsoring groups. And when they leave office they're looking for nice cushy retirement jobs as lobbyists for the very corporations that bribed them into office.

Spineless? No, just for the most part people who went into politics with noble goals in mind, but the system corrupted them like it does to everyone else who enters the Darkness. People who have tasted wealth and power and their greed will not let them give it up. They have BECOME their masters.

"Bottom line, very rich people have GOT TO GO." But I would suggest that it's not the Paris Hitons and Britany Spears that have to go. Those that must be sanctioned compose a tiny minority of the population. You and I have likely never heard their names. But their names are public record. Just to a search for the incestuous cross fertilization of the Boards of Directors of the major corporations and banks, including the owners of the FED. They are the masters, not just of the nation, of the world.

"Bottom line, very rich people have GOT TO GO." Certainly. But then the question becomes "HOW". Perhaps we could just ask them nicely to leave our government alone. I can think of no instance throughout history when the wielders of wealth and power gave them up voluntarily. So it would seem that the cure will be far messier than that.

Perhaps we should rely on the electoral system to bring us more liberal candidates, replacing the Republicrats in office now. But I'm afraid that the system we have now won't permit that. Even leaving aside the electoral fraud and touch screen shenanigans, the money needed to run a successful campaign for any national office requires candidates to seek the bribe money from the corporations, which then own them. The exception is the rich candidate who can self finance the campaign. But that is the very definition of a member of the Master Class. As long as we have this campaign finance system and not public financing (which I see as the only peaceful means of returning to a democracy) nothing will change.

So again, HOW to get rid of them. Well nature seems to have a way. Historically every time a wealthy elite class take over, they become faced with a really angry populace, or another faction of elites which depose them. Just ask Julius Caesar. Some have asked "how do you face a tank with a rifle?" Hell, I don't know. Ask the Iraqis. They've been doing it pretty successfully for four years.

I could say what I foresee and have foreseen since 2002, but I won't. Every time I do my post winds up in lefty Valhalla, never to be seen again by the living. I'll just say that it involves a heavily armed population and many thousands of wounded and really really angry veterans. Fill in the blanks for yourself.

Bill, I read your entire article and it's the most honest and straightforward treatment of the subject I've yet seen anywhere. Thank you for provoking my thoughts. But write more.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:26 PM
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8. the vampire elites
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 03:03 PM by wcepler
Thank you, thank you. I will do my best. Your feedback heartens me since I'm out here stumbling in this terrible dark like everyone else . . . but certain things are getting clearer and clearer and the top of the list (if I my quote myself) is RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO GO. Behind EVERYTHING are the elites! Behind our one party dem/pug political system are the vampire elites. Behind the death of our cannon fodder children in the Bush Oil Wars are the vampire elites. Behind the death of the middle class are the vampire elites. Behind the rape and murder of Mother Nature (God, doesn't it make you cry to see what these filth are doing to our one an only planet?) are the vampire elites.

This one or two percent of the human race has turned all the rest of us into sucker/slaves. We pay all the taxes. Our children fight all their greed wars. These people NEVER work. These people pay more for their health in an afternoon than we do on our children's health in a life time. They have cars they never drives, several thousand dollar suits and dresses they never wear, literal mansions (more than one) and affairs on other continents on a whim. They live like GREEK GODS while we clean their commodes and sacrifice our children's lives to their infinite greed.

Their number one fail safe is establishment politics. The illusion is that this have and have not horror can be solved with "politics"! God is heaven, POLITICS is what keeps the game going! The Nancy Pelosi's and Judas Joe Lieberman's are their bought and paid for puppets. Establishment politicians (98% of them) might just well be making the bullets which kill our children, so direct and profound is their responsibility for Iraq, etc.

It's like being distracted from watching your family (or human family!) be raped and murdered by a circus of yelling politicians. That's their dem/pug JOB -- to "distract us" from what's really happening.

One wonders where Pelosi is spending her 30 pieces of silver.

Bill

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:06 PM
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9. Einstein once said that
"God doesn't play dice with the cosmos".

It seems to me that the neocons are playing dice with the world.

They rolled the dice on 9/11 and managed to use the chaos to their advantage. They did the same with "shock and awe" and occupation of Iraq and again turned the chaos to their advantage.

If they go for a final roll of the dice (and attack Iran) then those bones might just come up snake eyes this time.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:25 PM
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10. 9/11
9/11 is the alpha and omega. It's when America lost its soul. I TOTALLY agree it was engineered by the neocon cabal (which means there's an international aspect to the infamy). The Bush/Republicans "facilitated" 9/11. They weren't just inept. They, as you say, threw the treasonous dice and now they're contemplating nuking Iran. Why? For oil and for religious hatreds. Same as Iraq. The inmates are running the asylum.

EVERYTHING becomes clear when you ask who benefited from 9/11. The Bush/Republicans, self evidently. Remember, Bush was in the political toilet before these traitors to America did their thing. But who else? What other COUNTRY benefited? Let's leave that as a rhetorical question.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:46 PM
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11. EInstein is rather quotable. And your statements are
Spot ON!
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