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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:48 PM
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Now Read The Truth: Lieberman-Kyl DEFANGED Because of YOU By thepen
Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_thepen_070929_now_read_the_truth_3a_.htm




WE THE PEOPLE CUT THE HEART OUT OF THE LIEBERMAN-KYL AMENDMENT

It has taken a couple days for the actual disposition of the Lieberman-Kyl amendment to leak out, but in FACT, the two most offensive paragraphs (3 and 4), which we were objecting to so strenuously as amounting to a declaration of war on Iran, were REMOVED IN THEIR ENTIRELY prior to the vote. Which means we WON.

Behold your victory:

Yes, you did it, with your TENS of thousands of emails and phones to Congress this last Monday and Tuesday. We are so proud of our participants on this one. Claim your win.

What was left was not great, but ultimately it means nothing with the actual teeth of the amendment extracted, not that that's any excuse for those who voted yes (or did not vote at all). So the Senate called some people a terrorist organization. Big deal, it's not binding anyway, no more than their groundless and hypocritical condemnation of MoveOn a week ago. And for those who may say this gives Cheney and Bush an excuse to do anything, this White House doesn't think it needs an excuse to do anything, that's the whole POINT of impeachment.

Once again this PROVES that activism works. We beat them back this time in a major way, folks, and why? Because we actually spoke out, that's why! We dismissed the voices of defeatism and took action. Fancy that, participatory democracy works. Are the evil ones going to give up? Of course not, and that's why we're not going to give up either. Let's say it together, we're going to keep ON speaking out in even greater numbers.

There are many dirty secrets in Washington, but the biggest one of all they are trying to keep may be that when you write and call in mass numbers, members of Congress tremble, shaking in their socks, especially in the House where they have to get reelected every two years. Oh, sure, sometimes they send us their form letter responses trying to sluff us off, trying to con us into thinking we are not having an impact. But we know the truth, which is that they work for us, and we do have the POWER with our personal messages to enforce that.

WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? WHY, IMPEACHMENT OF COURSE.....




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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:09 PM
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1. I will never like any of the ones that sign this terrible Lieberman-kyl amendment, and
that goes double for the one running for president.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:14 PM
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2. I wish i could share your enthusiasm. n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 02:15 PM by truedelphi
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:38 PM
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4. that's an OP-Ed...and My opinion after reading the final version
is that there are still MANY ways that the administration could use the amendment as it stands to go after Iran...

That's why Biden and Dodd didn't vote for it!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:47 PM
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5. I don't think that the poster realizes that a government always
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 02:50 PM by truedelphi
Goes after things incrementally.

Regarding Iran: They certainly are not going to bombard us with the images of a realized World War III any more than the Fuehrer in Germany bombarded his citizenry with images of hundreds of thousands of starved, incinerated Jews.

Today all that the Fuehrer has to have his citizens agree to say is Jews are not desired. And then tomorrow he'll have the citizens agree to restrict their rights to travel on public transportation. Or to use a car. Or to own a business.
Slowly the Fuehrer brings the population around. So eventually you have people loaded onto cattle cars. And driven off under cover of the night.

Same in this instance. We are not really declaring war. Just saying that the military of Iran is a terrorist organization.

Why does that even need to be legislated? We have already heard from our Fuehrer that Iran is part and parcel of the "Axis of evil"

But in legislating this, we have moved an incremental step closer to the war.

Which is defintely coming. And when it is here I will blame everyone who helped in the taking of the incremental steps.

And I really will probably gag unto death if I have to hear any more from Congress about how they didn't realize what Bush would do with what they so willingly gave him.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:23 PM
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3. K&R'd, good man.
Glad to see some optimism.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:02 PM
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6. It is kind of hard to impeach when they keep giving him the
authority to proceed.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:07 PM
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7. If this is "victory," what the hell is defeat like?
:shrug:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:45 PM
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8. Anni 2000-2006
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 03:45 PM by Demeter
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 04:50 PM
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9. I don't see any difference
We're slouching towards war with Iran, and the Democrats in the Senate let Lieberman edge them even closer to it.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 05:02 PM
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10. But They've Lost Time, Been Caught With Nukes Up Their Sleeve
and are facing a military anti-coup. And the MSM is having to put some news in their reports. Even my local fishwrap has stuff about this now.
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