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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:17 PM
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The Evangelical Crackup
Edited on Sat Oct-27-07 08:20 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
The hundred-foot white cross atop the Immanuel Baptist Church in downtown Wichita, Kan., casts a shadow over a neighborhood of payday lenders, pawnbrokers and pornographic video stores. To its parishioners, this has long been the front line of the culture war. Immanuel has stood for Southern Baptist traditionalism for more than half a century. Until recently, its pastor, Terry Fox, was the Jerry Falwell of the Sunflower State — the public face of the conservative Christian political movement in a place where that made him a very big deal.
With flushed red cheeks and a pudgy, dimpled chin, Fox roared down from Immanuel’s pulpit about the wickedness of abortion, evolution and homosexuality. He mobilized hundreds of Kansas pastors to push through a state constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, helping to unseat a handful of legislators in the process. His Sunday-morning services reached tens of thousands of listeners on regional cable television, and on Sunday nights he was a host of a talk-radio program, “Answering the Call.” Major national conservative Christian groups like Focus on the Family lauded his work, and the Southern Baptist Convention named him chairman of its North American Mission Board.

For years, Fox flaunted his allegiance to the Republican Party, urging fellow pastors to make the same “confession” and calling them “sissies” if they didn’t. “We are the religious right,” he liked to say. “One, we are religious. Two, we are right.”

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So when Fox announced to his flock one Sunday in August last year that it was his final appearance in the pulpit, the news startled evangelical activists from Atlanta to Grand Rapids. Fox told the congregation that he was quitting so he could work full time on “cultural issues.” Within days, The Wichita Eagle reported that Fox left under pressure. The board of deacons had told him that his activism was getting in the way of the Gospel. “It just wasn’t pertinent,” Associate Pastor Gayle Tenbrook later told me.

Fox, who is 47, said he saw some impatient shuffling in the pews, but he was stunned that the church’s lay leaders had turned on him. “They said they were tired of hearing about abortion 52 weeks a year, hearing about all this political stuff!” he told me on a recent Sunday afternoon. “And these were deacons of the church!”

These days, Fox has taken his fire and brimstone in search of a new pulpit. He rented space at the Johnny Western Theater at the Wild West World amusement park until it folded. Now he preaches at a Best Western hotel. “I don’t mind telling you that I paid a price for the political stands I took,” Fox said. “The pendulum in the Christian world has swung back to the moderate point of view. The real battle now is among evangelicals.”


Today the movement shows signs of coming apart beneath its leaders. It is not merely that none of the 2008 Republican front-runners come close to measuring up to President Bush in the eyes of the evangelical faithful, although it would be hard to find a cast of characters more ill fit for those shoes: a lapsed-Catholic big-city mayor; a Massachusetts Mormon; a church-skipping Hollywood character actor; and a political renegade known for crossing swords with the Rev. Pat Robertson and the Rev. Jerry Falwell. Nor is the problem simply that the Democratic presidential front-runners — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator Barack Obama and former Senator John Edwards — sound like a bunch of tent-revival Bible thumpers compared with the Republicans.

The 2008 election is just the latest stress on a system of fault lines that go much deeper. The phenomenon of theologically conservative Christians plunging into political activism on the right is, historically speaking, something of an anomaly. Most evangelicals shrugged off abortion as a Catholic issue until after the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. But in the wake of the ban on public-school prayer, the sexual revolution and the exodus to the suburbs that filled the new megachurches, protecting the unborn became the rallying cry of a new movement to uphold the traditional family. Now another confluence of factors is threatening to tear the movement apart. The extraordinary evangelical love affair with Bush has ended, for many, in heartbreak over the Iraq war and what they see as his meager domestic accomplishments. That disappointment, in turn, has sharpened latent divisions within the evangelical world — over the evangelical alliance with the Republican Party, among approaches to ministry and theology, and between the generations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/magazine/28Evangelicals-t.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=bbd7e5fec720454c&ex=1351224000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1193533138-icpkWeohIf%20HPGTC%20q7h5w
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:24 PM
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1. Hmm. Tough dilemma for them.
They should think about staying home next November.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:27 PM
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2. You know--it's so very sad but, really they should.
I'll pray for them.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:31 PM
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3. Either that or form a third party
Actually, I think that's what would be the best thing for them to do.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:36 PM
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4. Or start their own country, with the "Constitution" they'd prefer.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:42 PM
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6. I like your idea best of all!
With the right marketing campaign I think we just might sell it to them.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:12 AM
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10. They are already trying to do this. Check out Christian Exodus.
http://christianexodus.org/

www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-21-christian-movement_x.htm

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129023,00.html

Now if we could just figure out a way to detach it via the New Madrid fault lines and let it drift out to sea, once they are all in there .....



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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:38 PM
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5. Also in the Sunflower State: the heart of Johnson County, i.e Pro-Life Country
5:30 - 7 pm, on a recent Wednesday evening, 5 people in front of Senator Roberts's office with signs like: Had Enough? Honk for Peace!, Support the Troops - Bring them Home!, War IS Social Abortion.

474 honks in 1.5 hours

I'd say people are beginning to remember that it's very wrong to kill people who don't need killing.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 09:13 PM
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7. "Now appearing on a downtown street corner near you..." nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 10:27 PM
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8. LOL!
:D
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:11 PM
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12. I do believe that you are right about that.
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 09:14 PM by patrice
I think I HAVE been seeing them out and about more lately. Saw some just a few hours ago in one of our central parks, near a popular entertainment district. They had a little grill setup and when I stood by for a couple of minutes one came over and told me that they were out feeding the homeless and hangin' out with them. I said that was a good thing.

P.S. We've been in the same park since 2001, sometimes Evangelicals would stop by briefly, mostly to argue with us. We'll see if this is the first of any kind of regular presence that they are going to make.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 01:03 AM
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9. More on Fox from a Kansas Democratic blogger:
Wednesday, September 27, 2006
Rest of the Story about Rev, Terry Fox resignation

When conservative Pastor Terry Fox resigned suddenly in early August from his pulpit at Immanuel Baptist Church, I wrote that there was probably more to the story than had come out. Wichita Eagle columnist Mark McCormick shared my skepticism. Now we know that there indeed was something more to the story.Joe Rodriguez reported in the Wichita Eagle .
The Rev. Terry Fox's use of church funds to support his radio program was a factor in his resignation as senior pastor, according to a statement issued this week by Immanuel Baptist Church in Wichita.

The statement, issued by Don James, chairman of the deacons, also said testimony from many witnesses "reflected negatively on the Scriptural qualifications expected of a pastor." It also said Fox threatened to sue "individuals who might say anything negatively" about him.
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Rodriguez doesn't dig very deep. He's a self-proclaimed Christian conservative who sees nothing wrong with Attorney General Phill Kline's church-based politics. Rodriguez should have pointed out that the radio program is heavily political and openly endorsed candidates. He should ask what whether Fox's expenditure of church funds for his political radio show has endangered the Immanuel's tax-exempt status. He should also take a look at whether Fox lied to his radio station and his radio audience. He should ask Fox's co-host Rev. Joe Wright whether Wright was aware that Fox was spending church money for their radio show. I've listened to parts of the Fox-Wright show and I am pretty sure that I recall statements that no church funds were spent on the program.

http://newappeal.blogspot.com/2006/09/rest-of-story-about-rev-terry-fox.html
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:29 PM
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11. The book "What's the Matter with Kansas" helped a lot!
And the tidal wave of anger that got directed at them right after the 2004 election helped too! I doubt that the new "holy" language the Dems are using has anything at all to do with it. If any pol can be credited, it would be Howard Dean and his 50 state solution. I'm so sick of the DLC taking credit for shit they had nothing to do with!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:23 PM
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13. I like the point that concern for abortion was written off mostly as a Catholic
issue until Roe V. Wade, the ban on public school sponsored prayer, and the sexual revolution. This explains something that has been puzzling me: Pro-Life as I remember it from the first was in-extricably Anti-War and that has disappeared, because it really was just a marriage of political convenience for Evangelicals on the other two issues, state sponsored prayer and changes in sexual mores. This also explains a rather pronounced effort to take the Catholic church down a notch or two, which I've heard from more than one Evangelical leader.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:44 AM
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14. Great article! I read the whole thing.
I found this gem right at the end:

In the Wichita churches this summer, Obama was the Democrat who drew the most interest. Several mentioned that he had spoken at Warren’s Saddleback church and said they were intrigued. But just as many people ruled out Obama because they suspected that he was not Christian at all but in fact a crypto-Muslim — a rumor that spread around the Internet earlier this year. “There is just that ill feeling, and part of it is his faith,” {Wichita pastor David} Welsh said. “Is his faith anti-Christian? Is he a Muslim? And what about the school where he was raised?”

“Obama sounds too much like Osama,” said Kayla Nickel of Westlink. “When he says his name, I am like, ‘I am not voting for a Muslim!’”


Got that? "Obama" sounds like "Osama", and I'm not voting for a Muslim. As long as ignorance on this level continues to exist among evangelicals, there is only so far toward the light they will be able to go.

Since "Giuliani" sounds like "Jewliani", would Kayla be like, "I'm not voting for a Jew"?
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