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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:46 PM
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Why Obama is beating Hillary
Bill has done her NO favors imo...

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/02/22/why_obama_is_beating_hillary/



Why Obama is beating Hillary
By Derrick Z. Jackson
February 22, 2008

IN WINNING Wisconsin, Barack Obama fused yet more fissures in what were supposed to be his fault lines.


Wisconsin and Hawaii now give Obama a 24-state to 11-state lead on Hillary Clinton, not including Florida and Michigan, where Clinton won uncontested elections and whose delegates currently do not count because their states leapfrogged the Democratic Party primary schedule. But right up to Wisconsin, questions persisted as to whether this was, to borrow from Bill Clinton, a fairy tale.

Sure, Obama won vastly white states in the heartland. Ah, but those were just caucuses (with Hillary Clinton preferring not to explain why her own voters were not "fired up and ready to go"). Sure, Obama won the primary states of Louisiana, Georgia, and South Carolina, but that was because of the black vote, as husband Bill Clinton, the former president, patronizingly pooh-poohed.

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It was not just Hillary Clinton's welling up in New Hampshire, and Bill Clinton's racial put-down of Obama in South Carolina. Hillary Clinton has displayed a periodic reliance on white women as her safety net in town halls, saying things like "being the first woman president is a very big change."

That would be no big thing, except that the nation's demographics and racial history dictate that Obama dare not employ a parallel tactic by saying "being the first black president is a very big change." Obama has automatically had to run as a more universal representative of the people, with one fruit being his current 10-state streak.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton periodically pops up, subtly or spectacularly burning bridges, whining in New Hampshire that he cannot make Clinton "younger, taller, male," or moaning in South Carolina that solely because of race, "That's why people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance here."

The Obama people have never moaned once to the whitest of states that, because of race, he did not have a chance of winning there.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:48 PM
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1. "Bill Clinton's racial put-down of Obama in South Carolina" That's a lie.
Obama is beating Hillary becuase Obama surrogates like Derrick Jackson lie.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:50 PM
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2. yea because we all know
that Derrick Johnson is all powerful and can change vote numbers with his mind control powers AND he can make us all lie too I almost forgot
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:08 PM
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4. Obama is beating Hillary because
Hillary is Bush-lite, IMO.

My candidate was Kucinich, by the way, so I'm not party to the Obama/Hillary fiasco that's been going on. I'm no great fan of Obama, but I'm even less a fan of Hillary.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:19 PM
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7. a lie?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:52 PM
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3. I believe former presidents should not dabble in
Presidential Politics unless requested by a current president. I truly respect both Bill and Hillary but he should be giving speechs to institutions of higher education or cutting ribbons on college campuses. Nothing personal here just my two cents worth. (Much smaller scale example) when I retired I passed the baton to my successor and got the hell out of the way. You just have to know when to cut the cord.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:10 PM
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6. indeed
Point very well taken.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:31 PM
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5. Because they are mesmerized by WORDS not actions?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:34 PM
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8. obama doesn't have to mention race
it's more than obvious that he isn't white, and people will project whatever meaning his racial makeup has to them onto him anyway. and some believe, that the color of his skin does imbue him with...something. andrew sullivan believes his skin will automaticallty change...well, just about everything.

obama is winning because bush was a disaster and clearly people wanted a change. obama was smart emough to market himself as the person who can deliver that change.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:35 PM
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9. I'm not inspired by Obama, and I would never vote for Hillary
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 11:37 PM by Larkspur
My vote on Feb. 5 was a vote AGAINST Clintonism. I voted for Obama because he was the only viable candidate left on the ballot that was not named Clinton. I'm not inspired by Obama. Proud to say I donated $0.00 and 0 minutes to his campaign and that's my budget for him in the general election should he win the Dem nomination.

The main reasons why I won't support Hillary
1) she supports shipping my job to India
2) she voted for the Iraq War because she thought it would make her look tough.
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