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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:12 AM
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The Folly of Experience
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080307_the_folly_of_experience/

The Folly of Experience
Stanley Kutler

Posted on Mar 7, 2008


Are they experienced? Stanley Kutler takes a critical look at the (over-)emphasis on experience in anything resembling the Oval Office before a candidate assumes the presidency.

Stanley Kutler



Experience is the word du jour in this political season. The debate over experience cuts two ways—it is, of course, a politician’s, not a historian’s, argument.

John McCain and Hillary Clinton have used it as a major talking point in support of their own candidacies and to build a case against Barack Obama. But presidential history attaches little importance to experience; it is strikingly absent in the historical credentials of our most honored presidents. Certainly, inexperience blighted some recent presidencies, including those of John F. Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and, more memorably, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. In 1945, shortly after Harry Truman became president following Franklin D. Roosevelt’s death, Director of the Budget Harold Smith compiled a summary of Truman’s votes and statements on issues through the years. Truman thanked Smith and then added: “What I have said or done before I was president has no bearing on what I will say or do now.” And how did all that experience prepare Truman for the fateful news he received upon FDR’s death about the development of an atomic weapon?

The president’s experience did not spare us at two critical junctures in our history. James Buchanan, arguably our worst president, served in both the House and the Senate and had been secretary of state and minister to England—altogether a wealth of political experience. He was jokingly referred to as “the Old Public Functionary.” Yet he fiddled in Washington as the secession crisis left him paralyzed in mind and action, unable or unwilling to prevent the dissolution of the Union. Herbert Hoover came to the presidency in 1928 with the widest experience of anyone since the earliest days of the Republic, having a rich, diversified career in both government and the private sector. Those successful experiences notwithstanding, Hoover is best remembered for his failure to relieve individual suffering during the disaster of the Great Depression.

The meager experience of our most successful presidents stands in sharp contrast. Theodore Roosevelt had been New York’s police commissioner, an assistant secretary of the Navy and a one-term governor of New York. He was vice president for all of six months. Woodrow Wilson, whose success is more problematic, served a two-year term as governor of New Jersey and seven years as president of Princeton and briefly taught at Wesleyan University, where he founded the debate team and coached football. Rather puny experience, at best.

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Prominent journalist Walter Lippmann famously dismissed Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932 as “a pleasant young man” with few qualifications. Abraham Lincoln, whose greatness is universally acknowledged, had one term in the House of Representatives. In that brief time, he notably challenged President James K. Polk to name the exact spot where Mexicans had attacked and killed Americans on American soil. Lincoln and FDR’s leadership qualities, like Washington’s, inspired the nation in perilous times: Lincoln carried the nation through the fiery trials of the Civil War and Roosevelt steered through the shoals of economic disaster. We do better to understand their character, rather than prior experience, to understand their success and greatness. Anxious to capture the elusive qualities of leadership, historians often focus on Lincoln and Roosevelt’s temperament and, above all, their willingness to experiment with new measures and then move on if they proved inadequate. They were men of a pragmatic temperament, famously unmoved by rigid ideology or the inadequate dogmas of the past, to paraphrase Lincoln. They possessed extraordinary political antennae to direct their instincts.

Experience is rather thin gruel for measuring presidential success. Alone it is no substitute for good judgment, a bold vision, an ability to articulate it and inspire a following, and a temperament and organization to translate vision into programs and policies. These are the qualities that have rewarded us, and which have divided the good from the mediocre in our presidential history.
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:29 AM
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1. Why is this so hard for some to see? The last paragraph says it all.
"Experience is rather thin gruel for measuring presidential success. Alone it is no substitute for good judgment, a bold vision, an ability to articulate it and inspire a following, and a temperament and organization to translate vision into programs and policies. These are the qualities that have rewarded us, and which have divided the good from the mediocre in our presidential history."


Kutler makes the case for an Obama Presidency.

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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:33 AM
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2. If experience counted
Cheney would be one of the best qualified.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:38 AM
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3. K&R!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 AM
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4. Everybody has experience.
No one can say that any experience is more valuable to be president. Choosing a president is an exercise in predicting how a person will do in that office, and where they have been is not a predictor of that.

--IMM
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:03 AM
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5. i wouldn't go so far as to suggest that experience is irrelevant.
hey, i've got plenty of experience debugging computer programs and creating securities for wall street. great for my career if i keep doing what i'm doing, but it doesn't do much for my presidential ambitions.

i agree with the op article that experience is hardly the only qualification, though. it's more that we don't just want to know what jobs they've had, we want to know what they've done with them and what they've learned from them; how that experience molded them into the person they would be as president.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:10 PM
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7. I think we're in agreement.
It may be that experience as a county agricultural commissioner or a ward organizer provides the political and intellectual skill that would make a good president. Leadership, decision making, persuasion, vision, etc., are all scalable.

--IMM
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:52 AM
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6. Hendrix On "Experience"
If you can just get your mind together
Uh-then come on across to me
Well hold hands and then well watch the sunrise
From the bottom of the sea
But first, are you experienced?
Uh-have you ever been experienced-uh?
Well, I have
(well) I know, I know, you'll probably scream and cry
That your little world wont let you go
But who in your measly little world, (-uh)
Are you tryin to prove to that you're
Made out of gold and-uh, cant be sold
So-uh, are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced? (-uh)
Well, I have
Uh, let me prove it to you, yeah
Trumpets and violins I can-uh, hear in the distance
I think they're callin our name
Maybe now you cant hear them,
But you will, ha-ha, if you just
Take hold of my hand
Ohhh, but are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?
Not necessarily stoned, but beautiful?

I know it's not/wasn't a political tune but
it works on so many levels I can't stop LMAO
(especially if you picture Hillary w/a guitar, in Hendrix drag,
singing this at her rallies)
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