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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:54 PM
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Barbara Ehrenreich: Hillary's Nasty Pastorate
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Barbara Ehrenreich
Hillary's Nasty Pastorate
Posted March 19, 2008 | 01:11 PM (EST)



There's a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the "Fellowship," aka The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

Sean Hannity has called Obama's church a "cult," but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton's "Family," which is organized into "cells" - their term - and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia. In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family's home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn't undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn't completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners - alone.

The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes - knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:

During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.


At the heart of the Family's American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family's young women's group. And, at the Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html




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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:57 PM
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1. getting governments to talk to each other is bad if Hillary's involved -good if Obama?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:59 PM
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3. This is about a Power Cult. Making sure the disenfranchised STAY that way. It's Facism linked
to Theocracy.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:23 PM
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13. Your sham comparison is a joke...
right?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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17. This about a right wing religious cult
and the "Family" designation makes it eerily Moonish.

Clinton's part might be innocuous. Then again, it might not be. It's one of her many drawbacks.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:59 PM
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2. Wright speaks about the impact the powerful have on the poor. Hillary consorts w/Fascists
parading as warriors for Christ.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:02 PM
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20. Bill consorts with them too...
How many photos do we have of him at Kennebunkport?
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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24. Well said. nt
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:01 PM
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4. I think this deserves to be shared in GD:P. don't you?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:03 PM
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6. Yup. I can't post it there because I've had 3 within the last 24 hrs.....
.... Which is shocking, because until yesterday, I avoided GD-P like the plague!

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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:01 PM
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5. This only further illustrates the idiocy of the whole Pastor Wright issue in the first place
and the whole "guilt by association" tack the M$M has been ginning up as wedge issues to deepen the divide between
Democrats.

That said however, it would be interesting to see if Hillary could rise to the occasion of this becoming the "next
big thing" spashed all over M$M 24/7 coverage, like Obama did, with a historic groundbreaking speech.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:05 PM
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8. What Clinton is in goes well beyond "guilt by assoc." because The Family has a MISSION
Obama's pastor is guilt by association because if you look at his Church and its Membership and Mission, you see good things.

Clinton belongs to this group that has a state goal. It has a Mission that is anathema to Democracy.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:28 PM
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14. Good points. But how much you wanna bet M$M will be mum on Hillary's "mission"
since the M$M apparently has the same mission.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:52 PM
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16. Yes, Hillary is in league with Satan. She is a MONSTER.
You would, of course, never demonize a good, decent woman who was running for president. Only Hillary because she is a MONSTER.

I have that right, right? You're just waiting for a woman you can admire and respect to run. Right?

THEN you would vote for a woman. Right?
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:15 PM
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10. I'll be amazed if this becomes even a blip on the radar
of the corporate media.

I remember reading a story about this group, and they are indeed scary. But they're conservative and overwhelmingly white, and therefore unlikely to be portrayed as menacing, if they're portrayed at all.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:19 PM
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11. Another reason for not talking about it...
the media heads are probably involved too and squash the stories.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:33 PM
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15. I do love how Obama rose to the occasion and challenged us all to get over ourselves
demonstrating how he will respond under pressure, like a real leader.

BTW - I live in Oregon, and the state's biggest newspaper The Oregonian (a REPUBLICAN RAG) today has HEADLINE article
on Obama's speech with a big profile pic of him.

I can't wait to see this man turn the Rethugs GE swiftboating attempts right back at them with real leadership that
this nation is so hungry for.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:50 PM
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21. I agree with you there.
It was the "Fellowship" (aka "The Family") I was talking about that will not get MSM coverage.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:48 PM
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22. Yeah. It's not like this is new, either. I read about it in Mother Jones some time ago.
I kept thinking about it as this thing with Obama's pastor has been playing out. Talk about hypocrisy.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:03 PM
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7. Barbara makes a challenge to Clinton.
"Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. Now it's up to Clinton to explain - or, better yet, renounce - her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family."

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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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23. But Clinton will never have to answer that challenge because the Family
is white and conservative. I hate double standards! :mad:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:05 PM
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9. I wonder what that means about the oft cited "Family Values"
It's not the Masons....It's not Opus Dei....it's a bunch of fundy US politicians who want to run the world?

Oh, I'd never have guessed that.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:23 PM
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12. sick
so haw far removed can she be from the Dominionists?

sick
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:12 PM
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18. When I read the Mother Jones article I was astonished at Hillary's religiosity
and her longtime association with these right wing religious nuts. It's weird!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:27 PM
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19. from our archives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2894588
The Christofascist connections to the ISG - Democratic Underground





these are the people who wright and obama spoke about -the real enemies of our republic
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:35 AM
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25. This is what I got when I Scroogled Jeff Sharlet
Firstly, his blog. (I posted this in reply to another thread on the subject):

http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

There you will find links to a number of articles he wrote (for Harper's, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones)about what is- behind the 'prayer breakfasts' and conciliatory pseudo-christian speech- a group that sounds nearly as dangerous as the moonies or scientologists.


Hillary, the paragon of feminism and a role model to all our daughters has been publicly involved all these years with a religious group that segregates the sexes and claims that democracy is somehow ungodly. Their stated purpose is to keep us in holy oligarchy where the 'right' people rule. People associated with their church and ministry, of course. The membership is not all senators and mucky-mucks. The not so prestigious members spend their time serving the higher-ups, doing the lawn work on their estates and living in sexually segregated bliss. Of course the women come over from their compound to wait on the mucky-mucks too.

Read the articles. Hell, if you can afford such things, buy the book. I read most of his articles last night and felt close to freaking out. This country has been in a very scary situation for longer than many of us realize. Names are dropped. Your hair will curl.

People need to know what Hillary's religious association with these people is. Perhaps she should repudiate a few religious ties of her own, I think she would have a hard time defending her membership in a group that segregates women and looks upon them as second-class citizens. I personally don't think she believes their tripe, but I see her using the contacts made thru through the group for political advantage.

I was for Dennis at first, and I've worked my way up the chain to Obama and I'm stopping there. Hillary will do anything to be elected. And this is not a good thing.
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