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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:20 AM
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Hillary Clinton; fibber in chief
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3634746.ece


Hillary Clinton; fibber in chief
Her blatant deceit over Bosnia, among other lies, is about the last nail in her coffin
Gerard Baker


A good memory is needed once we have lied,” observed Pierre Corneille, the 17th-century French tragedian. He was right. The complexities involved in keeping an untruth plausible and consistent are so tortuous that to be really good at lying demands exceptional recall of what was said when and where.

But Corneille was writing before the age of YouTube. Nowadays, no amount of familiarity with memory's labyrinth will save you when there is downloadable disproof at the click of a mouse button. So Hillary Clinton discovered this week, when she was caught out in a prize fib about a trip she made to Bosnia when she was First Lady 12 years ago.

Dilating on her extensive experience of foreign affairs, the New York senator told a campaign event last week that she vividly remembered how, with the Balkans still a cauldron of war, she had flown into an airfield under sniper fire. She had had to dash, head-down from the aircraft, she told the spellbound audience, to the safety of waiting cars, and the planned traditional arrival ceremony had been hastily cancelled in the mêlée.

It sounded thrilling - like something out of a Tom Clancy novel. The problem was, it probably did come out of a Tom Clancy novel. It was pure fiction.

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That really ought to be that. After that final primary in Puerto Rico on June 1, Mr Obama will have won more states, more delegates and more popular votes than Mrs Clinton. How in those circumstances can Mrs Clinton claim a moral case for staying in the race?

Her answer is to persuade the party's super-delegates - top party leaders and elected officials who will have the casting votes - that she is more electable than Mr Obama, and that they would be doing the party a favour if they chose her over the wishes of the tens of millions of people who have voted in the primaries.

They are unlikely to be taken in. They are more likely to view it as another example of Senator Clinton's misspeaking.

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:23 AM
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1. I Wonder If That Famous Story She Tells About Her Childhood
and facing down the bully was just her imagination as well.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:39 AM
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2. I missed that one

I heard that she told a lie about her name.

How long can one nose grow?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:01 AM
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3. Oh Yeah, Being Named After Sir Edmund Hillary, The First Person
to climb Mount Everest. Only thing was it was after Hillary was named. Here is the Snopes Link:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hillary.asp

I was talking about this one: "At age 4, Hillary Rodham confronted the neighborhood bully and showed her who was in charge. She's stayed in charge ever since."

http://www.charleston.net/news/2007/jul/22/a_portrait_hillary_clinton11061/?print

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:03 AM
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4. How about the story that Obama
was conceived following "Bloody Sunday." He was born in 1961 - the march took place in 1965.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:20 AM
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5. Never Heard That One - Got A Link?
I would find it hard to blame anyone for not knowing when they were conceived though.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:30 AM
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6. Will try to find you a link tomorrow.
"nite
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:41 AM
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7. Never Mind, Looked It Up Myself. Debunked By Snopes
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:15 PM
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8. LOL ~ cool!
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Don Davis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:13 PM
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9. Hillary, Slipping in Polls, Seeks a ‘Do-Over’ in Bosnia
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