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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 08:38 AM Original message |
Erotic Jesus sparks art debate in Austria |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Plastic Jesus stirs debate on Spiral Hawk Dashboard |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I'm more of a fan of Buddy Christ, personally. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I don't care if it rains or freezes, 'long as I got my plastic Jesus |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
118. I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I've got my plastic Jesus... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Jesus just left Chicago |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Are they talking about this Jesus? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. Yet another spawn from the seed of Duchamp. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. Art that's made just to piss people off... |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I couldn't have said it better myself. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. what evidence do you have it it was made to piss people off? |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I'm not saying he shouldn't do anything. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:07 AM Original message |
but you suggest that the art was made to piss people off |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. Not necessarily. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. but he didn't make art to piss people off |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I think you've got me there. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. The |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
78. I know |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. If art is created with the intent to instill... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
70. I love art that pisses people off. |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. If you don't think art is meant to be provocative, what do you reckon its purpose to be? |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Art does different things for different people. I, personally, find this piece to be annoying. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. There's provocative... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
65. You're describing a "shock jock" mentality of the art world. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. Do you support censoring the painting? |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Of course I don't support it being censored. Ever. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Cool. That's the only problem I would have. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yeah, don't censor it but... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Can I ask why it's so offensive to show Jesus as gay? |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. For me, it's the erotic thing. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. How do you know Jesus wasn't gay? |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I'm going to assume he was not gay until I have evidence that points towards the contrary. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Interesting perspective. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Very interesting. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Historically, many Hebrews (and later Christians) would turn celebate... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
104. Heh. "Evidence." |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
51. heh |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. where in the bible does it say that he was straight? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Unless I'm mistaken, the Hebrews were the most homophobic people in the area. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. And you get this from...? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Reading. It's a wonderful thing. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Interesting. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. For some time yes, but not all that long, really. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I think an eroticized Jesus is what's offensive to some |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I can understand that |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. I LOLd |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. If sexuality is such an immutable, unchanging state of being... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. complex questions!! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Bagoas |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. A large part of sexuality IS determined by societal norms. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Here's what I wonder about: today, we view the pairing of young boys |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Good question, but I doubt it. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Here's what I wonder about: today, we view the pairing of young boys |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I just find it irritating because the intent seems only to be shocking and outrageous. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Do you know that he hasn't done one on Mohammad? |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Point conceded. |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
95. Has he done one on Ol Mo. I'd like to see it if he has. |
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satireV (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. Well imagine this. |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I understand that. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. "Myth." |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. What's wrong with "Myth"? |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Myth implies it never happened. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. And to a non-Christian, it didn't. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Doesn't offend me at all. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. All we know is that he lived and was executed. The rest was written by |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Frame it using whatever words you want. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. All it means is we know very little about him, just what was said by others. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Excellent question! |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I don't necessarily think that's the case with the people replying to the thread. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Austria, yes, on this thread - prob not. Very incindiary headline. |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Just stole it from Reuters, as per the instructions in LBN. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I know :) |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
98. Why is it offensive to point out Mohammad liked young girls under |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
114. Muhammad did NOT like women under age 12, it was a formal marriage. |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Ok, so she was under 10 than |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. "Artists who try to be provocative ... |
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Ordr (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Silly. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. Here ya go, Ordr |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. LMAO |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. This one is way better... |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Hell yeah! |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. LOL! Where did you get that? I need one for my bar. n/t |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I'm not sure who did that but it is hilarious isn't it? |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Hell yea its funny. Is it making fun of an actual painting or artist? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I'm sure the artist and his work is being made fun of - and with good reason! |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. His name then or the name of the print. Google is my friend. n/t |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I googled Thomas Kincaid parody |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Thanks devilgrrl. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Bingo! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. The point isn't to correct, it's to create questions. |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Well, what question is this supposed to raise? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. The questions I raised earlier with you for a start. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. Oh, don't yell Bingo when I'm being sarcastic! |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. You may have been sarcastic. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. If you were being serious does that mean you agree with a society that views gay as sinful? |
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FightTheRight89 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Homosexuality is not sinful. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
48. Am I reading this article correctly? |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. Video LINK, and PICTURE |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. I would have to disagree with the notion of naked men celebrating |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
116. The artist seems to object to NO WOMEN being in Leonardo's painting |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
59. Some of the commentary on this thread amuses me... |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. What's annoying about this? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. Yeah, god damn artists being all creative and stuff |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. NOOO!!! Don't pull out the Kinkade! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. here... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Aaaahhhhh! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Check out the meth lab in the woods |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #86 |
119. Oh my god that wins. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
120. Creative? No. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
69. Funny how the story covers the controversy without showing the work. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. There is a link upthread with some of the images. Let's just say |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Yeah, I found linkage. |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. see my reply 58 above for pic and link |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
92. Hey OP! How's that granite cookie taste? |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Damn - I was wondering when that was going to happen. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I was wondering why it took so long!!! |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Artists who try to be "provocative" can be annoying sometimes... |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
93. Oh goodie - The concern trolls all come out when something like this is reported |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. Unfortunately, one of them is still here |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
113. this kind of underground art is so weird and intentionally confrontational to the people who respect |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
115. In a CATHOLIC Museum of a Communist Artist. |
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