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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:59 PM
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Lieberman's Gone Over To The Other Side (Hartford Courant)
Bill Curry

In 2006, Joe Lieberman vowed to help elect a Democratic president in 2008. Three weeks ago, he told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that by supporting John McCain he didn't break his word because his party has changed so much since John Kennedy.

(snip)

Unless he's off his rocker, Joe actually doesn't think Obama and Clinton are extremists or that one party is more partisan than the other. What gives? To see what Joe's up to, you should catch him not on ABC but on Fox, where he really lets his hair down.

Joe recently told Fox that Democrats opposing the war suffer from "their warped way of thinking ... that America is the problem." That isn't new stuff; Joe bought himself his 2006 primary not by backing the war but by attacking the patriotism of those who didn't. But in a later Fox radio interview he did break new ground. Asked if Barack Obama was "a Marxist," Joe replied:

"Well you know, that's a good question ... I will tell you that during this campaign I've learned some things about him, about the kind of environment from which he came ideologically ... I'd hesitate to say he's a Marxist but he's got some positions that are far to the left of me and I think mainstream America."

Welcome to Joe Lieberman, the 2008 edition. Angling for a star turn with the Republicans — convention keynoter, defense secretary, vice president — he has not only deserted his old party but set fire to it on the way out.

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http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-curry0420.artapr20,0,3596725.column
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:02 PM
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1. Joe puts Israel ahead of U.S. Concerns
To that end he is essentially in the Republic Party.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:38 PM
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13. Joe puts JOE ahead of U.S. Concerns
Saying that he puts Israel ahead of U.S. concerns is over-the-line in my humble opinion.

Either way, I think we would agree that he's a worthless bastard right along the lines of Benedict Arnold.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:34 PM
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16. He wants war with Iran!
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 09:00 PM by StClone
Why is that? Is it for the good of the U.S. F no! He wants to annilate Iran and any other presumed threat to Israel. You think that's not putting Israel first at the expense of us all?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:09 AM
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20. That's your proof?
That's it? Really? So what's McCain's excuse since he isn't a Jew or a fundamentalist Christian (to my knowledge)? He (McCain) also an Israeli agent?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:19 AM
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23. Do you think everyone who's hawkish on Iran is putting Israel first?
Actually it could be argued that a war with Iran would put Israel, as well as other Middle Eastern countries, in serious danger. A majority of Israelis do *not* want war, though they do want economic sanctions.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:17 AM
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22. Agree with you!
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:26 AM by LeftishBrit
'I think we would agree that he's a worthless bastard right along the lines of Benedict Arnold.'

Yes. For some years, my saying has been, "Bush is the modern Mad King George, and Blair is the modern Benedict Arnold". But Lieberman and Blair definitely have a lot in common! ("Yip, yap, my turn to fetch King Georgie's slipper, woof!")

ETA: is all this really such a surprise? Lieberman got into the Senate in 1988 by running to the right of the *Republican* incumbent, with the backing of William Buckley and the National Review. I'm just surprised it took him this long to explicitly support the Republicans!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:03 PM
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2. JOEmentum makes me
:puke: spew.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:04 PM
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3. Has out party kicked him off his committees yet?
He ran as an "Independent Democrat" despite the fact that there IS no such animal.

He promised to caucus with Dems.

Now, he's campaigning for the Repub and badmouthing the Dem candidate.


He's gone from (D) to (I-but sorta D) to (R). Can we just call him a Republican already?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:12 PM
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5. He reregistered as a Democrat last summer
in a bid to keep his superdelegate status. The party didn't buy it. Now he's angling for star power with the GOP.

I hope all the people in Ct. who were fooled into voting this piece of shit back in are red faced. They've already got red bums.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:09 PM
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4. No shit, Captain Obvious n/t
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:24 PM
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6. Darth Vader has coaxed him over to the dark side...n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:35 PM
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7. I was way wrong about him
I never thought he'd go this far.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:50 PM
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8. So many former Republicans have become Democrats of late...
I suppose Lieberman's retro-move represents the universe balancing itself out. Joe's unerring political instincts told him that this is the year, this is the time, to become a Republican. Crazy!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:55 PM
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:38 PM
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10. KAPO Joe
Enabler, collaborator and all around schmutzig.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:44 PM
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11. This is why he lost the Democratic primary- he was already obvious.
But why any Dem voted for him in the GE, I'll never understand. :banghead:
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:02 PM
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15. somde did, but Joe's base support
was mostly Republicans. LIEberman sapped enough Dem votes that he was able to win with 90% of Republicans voting for him. When 90% of Repubs are voting for you, you aint a Democrat.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:38 PM
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12. It wouldn't shock me if a lot of the people that voted for him are now HRC supporters.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:40 PM
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14. That's an idiotic position and you know it.
Foolish supposition based on subjective and biased analysis. I'm a Hillary supporter and I absolutely detest Joe Lieberman. In fact, there is one of his supporters from 2006 upthread who is surprised by this move, but is a supporter of Barack Obama.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:54 PM
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17. I saw a Clinton supporter with lieberman in his/her avatar the other day
which is why I came to that conclusion. I could be wrong but you have to admit Hillary supporters seem to lean a lot more to the right than Obama supporters, no?

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:37 AM
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18. I know some Lamont supporters who support HRC
They have nostalgia for the Clinton economic boon. Course, they forget that Clinton passed NAFTA which is screwing us now.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:28 PM
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19. Lukid Party mole
This scum has always been a Lukid Party mole in America. His loyalties have NEVER been, not only Democratic, but American. Judas Joe to the max! He's the kind of guy you spit when you see him.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:12 AM
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21. Got any proof other than his being a Jew?
Got an proof that "His loyalties have NEVER been, not only Democratic, but American."? I will wait with abated breath for your proof of his loyalty to Israel over the US and his being a mole for the Likud.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:26 AM
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24. Here's what happened: Libermann lost Democratic primary to Ned LeMont
in 2006, & now & forever, Joe will always be bitter towards Democrats...For some reason, had he won that Democratic primary, he'd probably be supporting Clinton or Obama now...

It's a shame LeMont lost in the 2006 mid-terms, he seemed like a real progressive/liberal, would have been a great addition to the Senate..
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