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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:33 AM
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U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations
The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.
Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King's College London.

China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison. (That number excludes hundreds of thousands of people held in administrative detention, most of them in China's extrajudicial system of re-education through labor, which often singles out political activists who have not committed crimes.)

San Marino, with a population of about 30,000, is at the end of the long list of 218 countries compiled by the center. It has a single prisoner.

The United States comes in first, too, on a more meaningful list from the prison studies center, the one ranked in order of the incarceration rates. It has 751 people in prison or jail for every 100,000 in population. (If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up.)

The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people. The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.

The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate.

There is little question that the high incarceration rate here has helped drive down crime, though there is debate about how much.

Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.

Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.

It used to be that Europeans came to the United States to study its prison systems. They came away impressed.

"In no country is criminal justice administered with more mildness than in the United States," Alexis de Tocqueville, who toured American penitentiaries in 1831, wrote in "Democracy in America."

No more.

"Far from serving as a model for the world,
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:46 AM
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1. Good Lord - that just about equals the population of Utah
In fact, 16 U.S. states have fewer people than are incarcerated in this country. Why couldn't the non-dangerous prisoners (writers of bad checks, possessors of forbidden drugs) be monitored OUT of prison, working and paying fines and taxes, instead of costing untold billions of dollars to keep them warehoused? I guess that would make too much sense. :shrug: :think:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:49 AM
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2. The 'system' has NO common sense.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:52 AM
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3. They are turning it into a for-profit system. Human commodity market.
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:23 AM
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4. this is sick
part of the new world order
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:34 AM
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5. Other nations just kill people for crimes that we imprison for
I was discussing this yesterday with a co worker who moved here from China. Many of the crimes that we imprison for would mean death in other countries.

But that is only part of it. There are too many sent to prison for things that they should at the most be fined for.
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