Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Collapse of New Russia

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:31 PM
Original message
The Collapse of New Russia
Russia is entering a period of man-made disasters. Aging Soviet-era machinery, infrastructure and buildings that went up mostly in the 1960s and early 1970s are now so worn out that they probably won't last more than a few more years. The fire at Ostankino television tower in 2000 was just a sign of things to come.

Experts close to the government dismissed such gloomy forecasts as unfounded, insisting that economic growth and the market will take care of the problem on their own.

But no one expected that the buildings thrown up in recent years would begin to crumble even before the country's vintage Soviet infrastructure finally gives out. Transvaal Park, which collapsed in southern Moscow over the weekend, was hardly the only new building with fatal flaws, but it struck a nerve. Not just because so many people were killed and injured, but also because the water park had been touted as a symbol of the "successful" new Russia.

City Hall proudly announced the opening of the "largest water park in Europe" when it opened in time for City Day back in 2002. The project was entirely financed by Russian investors -- built without city funds, the park was hailed as a triumph of private enterprise. Mayor Yury Luzhkov attended the grand opening, and the city awarded Transvaal an award for "best realized project" of 2002 in the category of sports, health and leisure facilities. Scenes of smiling middle-class families splashing and sliding soon began to flood the airwaves and the pages of glossy magazines.....cont'd

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/02/19/005.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. they need to call Halliburton
if they have any money
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
2. Russia suffering from corporate crooks also......
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 09:14 PM by mac2
All the so called new Democratic systems in the world can't succeed because of corruption and greed in their system.

Corporate power has not been taken out of their new system anymore than it is destroying ours. A Constitution and Bill of Rights is needed with corporate and influence of the wealthy elite protections. Jefferson said, these things could destroy a democracy. Seems Russia hasn't even had a start.

Russia failed and went bankrupt because of their military spending in Afghanistan...around the world. We are doing the same thing under Bush.

Bush tyranny is much like old military Russia. Always an enemy to defeat. We were the enemy. Now ours is the ME with...Suddam or Bin Laden.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
3. You have to take into consideration...
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 09:24 PM by Dirk39
that until 1997 they subscribed to the neoliberal agenda and became victims of the IMF-policies. Then they slowly started to understand what it is about: to destroy their economy and prevent a potential competitor for the USA.
Since Gorbatchev sold them out to capitalism, the life-expectancy rate in the former Soviet-Union is 5 years lower than before.
Still no democracy and no rights, the only differance seems to be, that health care, education, affordable rents and jobs are gone...

Putin's new strategy seems to be, to follow China's example. Protectionism and a somehow authoritarian regime, to protect Russia from the threads of foreign investors.

"corruption and greed in their system"?
But under the given circumstances: does Putin have any other chance than to chose between local corrupt elites and selling his country out to the USA?

Hello from Germany,
Dirk

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. they will make us - or our families/children - pay for the bullet/gas
this time round :'(

peace
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Maybe...
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 10:10 PM by Dirk39
Just compare Gorbatchev's image in the former SU to that in Europe and the USA. I guess, he's one of the most hated human beings in Russia.

I wouldn't subscribe to that hate, but in a way, he's a stunning example of people, who have the best intentions but are responsible for the worst results.

It was already to late. After Khrushchev tried to reform the Soviet Union, but couldn't convince the USA to stop the "arms race" in order to get the money to finance reforms, it was too late.

Gorbatchev thought he could work with the Socialist International for a real third-way kind of society, not recognizing that all the social-democratic and socialist partys of Europe had already surrendered to neoliberalism. The corporations and global players were just waiting for the SU to fall to start their war against democrazy, social-justice and everything the unions and left-wing parties had archieved since the end of WWII, the systematic rollback of democratic gains, public services, and common living standards around the world.

Does anybody remember, how we were told that with the end of "communism", eternal peace would be achieved, no more wars, no more poverty, wealth for all of us? Exactly the opposite did happen.
And more and more the promises of the neoliberal ideology sound like those grew leninist party-leaders announcing the unbeatable succes of their next 5-year-plan, while everything around them was falling apart.
Dirk








Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC