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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:56 PM
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Shooting Neocons in a Barrell. (The best article on the neocons I have
ever read.) And it's by Pat Buchanan

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When Richard Perle and his neo-con henchman David Frum decided to write a book about "How to Win the War on Terror," they knew they been successful in persuading President Bush to go to war with Iraq. As their manuscript went to the publisher, it was clear the US-led coalition forces had won a quick and easy victory over Saddam Hussein. All that was left was some mopping up, installing their buddy Ahmad Chalabi as Saddam's successor, and then move on to the next war against the "axis of evil." But by the time the book arrived in the bookstores, it was even clearer that the war they and their Cabal had cooked up was a total mess, with no end in sight to either Iraq's miseries or to the costs to America in blood and treasure. Whoops!

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The guru’s reputation, however, does not survive a reading. Indeed, on putting down Perle’s new book the thought recurs: the neoconservative moment may be over. For they are not only losing their hold on power, they are losing their grip on reality.

An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror opens on a note of hysteria. In the War on Terror, writes Perle, “There is no middle way for Americans: It is victory or holocaust.” “What is new since 9/11 is the chilling realization that the terrorist threat we thought we had contained” now menaces “our survival as a nation.”

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To suggest Frum and Perle are over the top is not to imply we not take seriously the threat of terror attacks on airliners, in malls, from dirty bombs, or, God forbid, a crude atomic device smuggled in by Ryder truck or container ship. Yet even this will never “overthrow our civilization.”

In the worst of terror attacks, we lost 3,000 people. Horrific. But at Antietam Creek, we lost 7,000 in a day’s battle in a nation that was one-ninth as populous. Three thousand men and boys perished every week for 200 weeks of that Civil War. We Americans did not curl up and die. We did not come all this way because we are made of sugar candy.

Germany and Japan suffered 3,000 dead every day in the last two years of World War II, with every city flattened and two blackened by atom bombs. Both came back in a decade. Is al-Qaeda capable of this sort of devastation when they are recruiting such scrub stock as Jose Padilla and the shoe bomber?

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I am shocked to read such a rational, sane, reasoned article by none other than Pat Buchanan. But it is one of the best that I've ever read on the murderous mindset of the neocons.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:01 PM
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1. Well, the world is truly upside down
When Pat Buchanan makes sense!!!

OH MY GOD!

And really, can you believe the outrageous hubris, arrogance, gall, greed . . . I can't go on.

Jeanette

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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ChompySnack Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:01 PM
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2. Love to read it, but...
I need a link.. :-)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:04 PM
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3. Must. Have. Link. Feed me.
:o
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:08 PM
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4. Patriotism is Born
"I am shocked to read such a rational, sane, reasoned article by none other than Pat Buchanan."

Let's try not to be shocked. Let us be thankful for the great awakening. Let us welcome the Paleo Cons and the growing tide of angry Libertarians to join the wave of Patriotic volunteers, to turn back the small group of radical fundamentalists who have commandeered our hearts and minds.

When the great Tao is forgotten,
goodness and piety appear.
When the body's intelligence declines,
cleverness and knowledge step forth.
When there is no peace in the family,
filial piety begins.
When the country falls into chaos,
patriotism is born.


Tao Te Ching
Lao-tzu (abt.551-479 BCE)

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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:12 PM
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5. LINK?
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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:15 PM
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6. http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_5211.shtml
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:20 PM
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7. Geez, I HATE it when I do that. Sorry.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:04 PM
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8. Just finished it--very good. Hasn't Buchanan always represented himself...
...as an old school conservative? I know he provides a constant wedge among members of the dark side.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:07 PM
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9. I find his views on liberalism still distorted.
He referred to Frum and Perle's book as "liberalism with sharp teeth," and called the myth that we went into WWII to defend democracy an essentially liberal idea :crazy: But then who can say what liberalism and conservativism are anymore. Buchanan is still Buchanan, yet I agree with the heart of his view on the neocons.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 10:39 PM
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10. here's a link
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 11:14 PM
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11. this book sounds like the neo-cons Mein Kampf.
:eyes:
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:28 AM
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12. Damn You Be Afraid! I Command You!
signed,
george w bush*
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