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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:08 PM
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Response to Attack on Kerry's Defense Record
Response to Attack on Kerry's Defense Record

The Republican National Committee has been spreading an email attacking John Kerry for supposedly trying to kill 20 different weapons programs in the early 1990s. Here are the facts:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2096127/

Here is an excerpt from that article:

"It is instructive, however, to look at the footnotes. Almost all of them cite Kerry's vote on Senate bill S. 3189 (CQ Vote No. 273) on Oct. 15, 1990. Do a Google search, and you will learn that S. 3189 was the Fiscal Year 1991 Defense Appropriations Act, and CQ Vote No. 273 was a vote on the entire bill. There was no vote on those weapons systems specifically.

On a couple of the weapons, the RNC report cites H.R. 5803 and H.R. 2126. Look those up. They turn out to be votes on the House-Senate conference committee reports for the defense appropriations bills in October 1990 (the same year as S. 3189) and September 1995.

In other words, Kerry was one of 16 senators (including five Republicans) to vote against a defense appropriations bill 14 years ago. He was also one of an unspecified number of senators to vote against a conference report on a defense bill nine years ago. The RNC takes these facts and extrapolates from them that he voted against a dozen weapons systems that were in those bills. The Republicans could have claimed, with equal logic, that Kerry voted to abolish the entire U.S. armed forces, but that might have raised suspicions. Claiming that he opposed a list of specific weapons systems has an air of plausibility. On close examination, though, it reeks of rank dishonesty.

Another bit of dishonesty is RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie's claim, at a news conference today, that in 1995, Kerry voted to cut $1.5 billion from the intelligence budget. John Pike, who runs the invaluable globalsecurity.org Web site, told me what that cut was about: The Air Force's National Reconnaissance Office had appropriated that much money to operate a spy satellite that, as things turned out, it never launched. So the Senate passed an amendment rescinding the money—not to cancel a program, but to get a refund on a program that the NRO had canceled. Kerry voted for the amendment, as did a majority of his colleagues.

At the same time, in 1991, Kerry opposed an amendment to impose an arbitrary 2 percent cut in the military budget. In 1992, he opposed an amendment to cut Pentagon intelligence programs by $1 billion. In 1994, he voted against a motion to cut $30.5 billion from the defense budget over the next five years and to redistribute the money to programs for education and the disabled. That same year, he opposed an amendment to postpone construction of a new aircraft carrier. In 1996, he opposed a motion to cut six F-18 jet fighters from the budget. In 1999, he voted against a motion to terminate the Trident II missile. (Interestingly, the F-18 and Trident II are among the weapons systems that the RNC claims Kerry opposed.)"
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:14 PM
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1. This will be what will be remembered as the 'election of the liars'. From
now on the things that Bush* and his supporters and henchmen say will simply boggle the mind. All we can hope is that the public is smart enough to understand that this administration is built upon lies.

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:24 AM
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2. The $2.2 Billion Plane
Kerry is being attacked for trying to end spending on the B-2 bomber. This was a plane intended to attack the evil empire of the Soviet Union, which no longer existed.

The B-2s cost $2.2 BILLION per plane.

I'm glad Kerry was willing to stand up to stop wasteful spending so the money was freed for more useful purposes.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:25 PM
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3. David Corn wrote a great response to this question
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 10:30 PM by Nancy Waterman

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040315&s=corn>


...But this hardly makes him Bush lite. There is, as evidence, his nineteen-year Senate record, during which he has voted consistently in favor of abortion rights and environmental policies, opposed Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, led the effort against drilling in the Alaskan wilderness, pushed for higher fuel economy standards, advocated boosting the minimum wage and pressed for global warming remedies. But what distinguishes Kerry's career are key moments when he displayed guts and took tough actions that few colleagues would imitate. One rap on Kerry is that he is overly cautious and conventional. He's no firebrand on the stump, nor does he come across as the most passionate and exciting force for change. But his history in Washington includes episodes in which he demonstrated a willingness to confront hard issues, to challenge power, to pursue values rather than political advantage, to take risks for the public interest.
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