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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 11:50 PM
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Kinsley: To Swift-Boat or Not
Thursday, Jun. 12, 2008
To Swift-Boat or Not
By Michael Kinsley
TIME

John McCain and Barack Obama are about to face a moral choice. It will probably be made in bits and pieces over the next five months, but we can imagine it as a single dramatic incident: the adviser approaches and says, "Yes or no. Do you want to swift-boat?" If you were the presidential candidate, what answer would you give?

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We might more usefully argue about the definition of swift-boating. There have, of course, been dirty politics and outrageous infamies since the beginning of the Republic. Swift-boating is not about that. Nor is it merely negative campaigning. There's nothing wrong with criticizing your opponent if the criticism is accurate and important. Swift-boating's essence is a particular kind of dishonesty, or rather a particular combination of shadowy dishonesties. It usually involves a complex web of facts, many of which may even be true. It exploits its own complexity and the reluctance of the media to adjudicate factual disputes. No matter how thoroughly a charge may be discredited, enough taint remains to support an argument. The fundamental dishonesty is the suggestion that the issue, whatever it is, really matters. This is how swift-boating differs from its cousin McCarthyism, which deals in totally baseless charges that would be deeply serious if true. Swift-boating is McCarthyism lite. There is usually a little something to the accusation but not enough to make it legitimately matter.

The raw material for swift-boating this year is already apparent. There is Obama's loony pastor, his friendship with a former radical, his dealings with a convicted financial sleaze. McCain's friendship with a woman lobbyist is an issue the New York Times fumbled, but it could resurface. McCain was one of the Keating Five, tied to a financial and influence scandal from the early '90s that could be brought down from the attic. And there is his alleged bad temper, a potentially legitimate issue that could be blended with his age in unsavory ways.

To swift-boat or not to swift-boat? What'll it be? Both candidates have publicly sworn off the practice, and McCain was admirably loud in denouncing the Swift Boat campaign in 2004. Of course, that was when he was still a maverick. I've been shocked by how many Democrats, in an informal poll, take the position that whatever it takes to win is justified. They say, first, that the Republicans will do anything to win, and it would be naive to attempt a higher standard. Second, they say, the stakes in this election are so high that an excess of scruples in trying to win it would be morality misplaced. Many Republicans agree at least with this second point. The belief of some Democrats that only scruples are stopping them from swift-boating as effectively as Republicans is almost touching.

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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1813974,00.html


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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 12:12 AM
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1. I say no
It's not that I'm so self righteous about it, but Obama has compromised too much already to suit me and it just gets to the point of not being as filthy as the rethugs are. Do we as dems. really want to go there? IMHO we can win without it.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 12:15 AM
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2. Bush wasn't behind the swiftboating.
McCain would claim the same thing as swiftboat-style attacks are made on Obama.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:19 AM
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3. Don't "Swift Boat" McCain, "Daisy" him

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

Let's rework the "Daisy" ad from the LBJ/Goldwater campaign and use that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:34 AM
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4. Truth Is Far More Effectively Devastating and Cheaper
and it has the novelty of never having been tried before.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:37 AM
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5. Just show mcCain being mcCain.
I'm picturing a series of Obama commercials consisting entirely of video clips of contradictory or insane mcCain statements or interview extracts. I think if enough voters actually see the real mcCain, so to speak, his popularity will wane, or at least fail to grow.

Obama tends to grow on people. mcCain shrinks on them.
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