Lies, kidnapping and a mysterious laptop (Inde - UK)

[katty]

more: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20242.htm

Lies, kidnapping and a mysterious laptop

You have been told that the Venezuelan President supports the Farc thugs

By Johann Hari

07/07/08 "The Independent" -- - Sometimes you hear a stray sentence on the news that makes you realise you have been lied to. Deliberately lied to; systematically lied to; lied to for a purpose. If you listened closely over the past few days, you could have heard one such sentence passing in the night-time of news.

As Ingrid Betancourt emerged after six-and-a-half years – sunken and shrivelled but radiant with courage – one of the first people she thanked was Hugo Chavez. What? If you follow the news coverage, you have been told that the Venezuelan President supports the Farc thugs who have been holding her hostage. He paid them $300m to keep killing and to buy uranium for a dirty bomb, in a rare break from dismantling democracy at home and dealing drugs. So how can this moment of dissonance be explained?

Yes: you have been lied to – about one of the most exciting and original experiments in economic redistribution and direct democracy anywhere on earth. And the reason is crude: crude oil. The ability of democracy and freedom to spread to poor countries may depend on whether we can unscramble these propaganda fictions.

Venezuela sits on one of the biggest pools of oil left anywhere. If you find yourself in this position, the rich governments of the world – the US and EU – ask one thing of you: pump the petrol and the profits our way, using our corporations. If you do that, we will whisk you up the Mall in a golden carriage, no matter what. The "King" of Saudi Arabia oversees a torturing tyranny where half the population – women – are placed under house arrest, and jihadis are pumped out by the dozen to attack us. It doesn't matter. He gives us the oil, so we hold his hand and whisper sweet crude-nothings in his ear.

[frylock]

1. kick for all the hugo haters

:kick:

[Judi Lynn]

2. We've never had the opportunity to know Ingrid's sister, Astrid, called the laptop claim false.

From the article:

On 1 March, the Colombian government invaded Ecuador and blew up a Farc training camp. A few hours later, it announced it had found a pristine laptop in the rubble, and had already rummaged through the 39.5 million pages of Microsoft Word documents it contained to find cast-iron "proof" that Chavez was backing the Farc. Ingrid's sister, Astrid Betancourt, says it is plainly fake. The camp had been totally burned to pieces and the computers had clearly, she says, been "in the hands of the Colombian government for a very long time". Far from fuelling the guerrillas, Chavez has repeatedly pleaded with the Farc to disarm. He managed to negotiate the release of two high-profile hostages – hence Betancourt's swift thanks. He said: "The time of guns has passed. Guerilla warfare is history."

Interesting, isn't it?

You may recall we DID read his comment about the time for this kind of warfare as having passed already, but not one peep about Astrid's comments on the laptop "evidence." It doesn't support the script, does it?

Thanks, katty.

[Diclotican]

3. katty

katty

If the Saudis, have just pumped a dozen of jihadist against the West every year, the case would end itself after a while.. But the fact is that the whole education proses, from the age 6 to the young male is out on the street at age 18, is educating, brainwashing if you wish, the young man to hate westerner, specially European and americans.. The whole concept of Saudi-Arabian educational system is to translate the extreme Wabbit-sect to every corner of the Kingdom.. And hopefully even to other Islamic country's too

If US was ever to be serious about combating extreme Islam, the whole concept of supporting Saudi-Arabia would totally goes haywire. The Saudi-Arabian Kingdom should be treated with more contempt than the Iranians, or Syria or other parts of the islamic world who are in the cross air for the next american made war.. The Saudi-Arabian kingdom is the worst of the worst... They EDUCATE YOUNG ONES to hate USA, and the West.. And thousands of young men who can the Koran by heart but have no clue how to survive in a world who are more dynamic than they believe are been going out of school every single year.. And many of them end up in extreme groups, inside the kingdom, or outside the kingdom to wage "jihad" against the "enemies of Islam".

Dclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language

[katty]

4. yes, concur--it is the worst system, Iraq and Iran appear

'liberal' compared to the Saudi regime. 30+ yrs ago big usa oil and the bush texas 'oil patchers' jumped in bed with the house of saud and remain there to this day.