We are a slob species with glorious potential for transcendence.

[wcepler]

Morality should be our breath. It shouldn't be a fatuous word in meaningless religious games.

We are such cowards. This is our essence: cowardice. Many readers will object to this, but if we had the courage of our potential, this world would be a heaven on Earth.

The ultimate challenge for human beings is to integrate spirituality with nature. This, after all, was the vision of the Holy Grail legends. Even in the 12th Century, most people well knew morality didn't belong to inauthentic priests or bishops.

For example, the knowledge was somewhat esoteric, but many people also knew that (1.) love between two adults was real, and (2.) it had nothing necessary to do with marriage (a convenient nonsense the clergy invented to manipulate the populace). The "sacrament" of marriage -- not on this or any other planet. The priests did everything but get in bed with the married couple.

The Tristan and Isolde story deals with such things. Love, marriage, and sex. That's a real juggling act, isn't it? But with institutional marriage factored out of the equation, then humans go back to directly relating (and loving!) other humans.

The core problem is that we are (hopelessly?) entangled in social games, mostly invented by the vampire rich -- such as "politics". We are brainwashed into thinking that "political action" is the God of human existence, so we obsess about rules and laws and elections, and (pain in the ass) "commandments".

But social reality is froth and babble (as in Tower of . . . ). We aren't "social beings". We are children of the universe and have no soul or being independent of nature. This should be see spot run obvious, but most of us think nature is a virtual illusion which we much transcend with religious wackosity.

How is it possible people can think that? How is it possible that such psychosis can be the pseudo soul of our species. How can we not realize that the sky above and the heaving oceans and the morning sunrise are REALITY? Yes, use the right word. Nature is our home. It is what we are born out of and die back into.

And back the 12th Century; Nature is also spiritual. Indeed Nature and Spirituality are the same thing and we don't need words like "God" to realize it. There's certainly nothing wrong with using God as a metaphor, but that doesn't change the fact that the metaphor is a metaphor for ultimate mystery and that this ultimate mystery is all of a piece with Nature.

And it must also be added that this ultimate mystery has NOTHING essential or critical to do with institutionalized religion. Or politics. Or marriage Or ANY of the social games invented by religious fanatics and the vampire rich to enslave the human race.

Society is pragmatics. We use it like we drive a car or comb our hair, but it is not who we are! And it is not the reality which defines who we are.

Our slob civilization is grounded in social existence. EVERYTHING for us is social.

But what about the reality of nature? Is a hurricane the creation of a conversation? Can we think or talk our way to eternal life? Does religion (any religion!) even microscopically transcend nature?

The big, big intuitions and truths have caught up with us. The criminally simplistic and abstract social games have turned into the home of evil.

The out of the box analogy says it to perfection, because our true nature IS an out of the box nature. The box creatures are rapidly killing the planet because we don’t bring 10 dimensional solutions to 3 dimensional problems.

If we only “actualized our human potential”, we would transcend evil and worldly civilizations of boggling stupidity.

An ancient intuition is, “You don’t wipe off blood with blood.” Meaning, in the box problems don’t have in the box solutions. You don’t vote or buy or talk your way out of hell.

Transcendence is all. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

<http://theliberationofrealism.blogspot.com/>

[Donnachaidh]

1. your posting just flew over the heads of a majority of posters

Nice reminder of what we once could have achieved.

[trthnd4jstc]

2. Mr. Epler, Please contact me

I have a tiny business in the mid-west. I wish to create a self-sufficient corporation. I wish to live by Fair Trade. I wish to help the world set on a course of improvement. Maybe we can work together. I have read several of your writings. Thanks for being out here.

[wcepler]

9. Godspeed

One way or another we'll make contact.

Bill

[bemildred]

3. Not bad.

:thumbsup:

We get what we look for.

[yellerpup]

4. Exhilirating reading.

Thanks! K&R! :kick:

[Uncle Joe]

5. I believe that was about the time of Bard influence,

too bad the church shut them down.

I believe erotic love ruled in the beginning, this was just basically physical lust.

Then the church came out with Agape, this was selfless love on behalf of some mystical deity and everyone's marriage had to blessed by the church as they gained control over the people's lives.

Then the bards arrived with what I believe is referred to as Amour, this is true love between two people not based on lust or some mystical deity, just natural love for love's sake.

I looked in Webster's Dictionary and they've reduced Amour to "secret or illicit" love, I believe they're selling the word short by not describing it in full context. I see Amour as natural true love, if you ever watch the movie "The Princess Bride"; a romantic comedy, his reply of "as you wish" to her every request exemplified it well.

I may have mentioned this before to you, I can't recall for sure, but if you get the chance check out "The Power of Myth" a book covering several interviews between Bill Moyers and the late Professor Joseph Campbell.

Thanks for the thread, Bill

[wcepler]

6. God bless Joseph Campbell

You're so welcome. Thank you. And yes I have read and re-read and re-re-read wonderful Joseph Campbell who practically stood on street corners reminding us not to take mythology "literally". The virgin birth, for example, can be wonderfully seen as the opening of the Kundalini heart chakra. Oh, that man enriched my life!

And I have watched "The Princess Bride" many times with my daughters. Fun, fun, fun, but as you say, with lots of content.

Bill

[Uncle Joe]

7. I wish PBS would telecast those interviews again, I haven't seen them recently.

I was impressed by the PBS interview on television first , and then some time later going through my late mother's library, there was the book on the interviews.

While reading the book on how disparate societies's myths shared so many great commonalities in spite of not being connected by time or geography and how these commonalities told fundamental truths about the human condition, I had my Eureka moment regarding the corporate media's treatment of Al Gore.

That's just one example of how Joseph Campbell affected my perspective on life.

Joe

[wcepler]

8. what television CAN be

Weren't they wonderful? What television CAN be!
Bill

[groovedaddy]

12. Agape - stolen from the Greeks?

The "church" stole/borrowed many terms & practices from various cultures, agape being one of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

[JohnnyLib2]

10. Bookmarked, copied, printed--

and recommended here. Thank you!

[glitch]

11. K & R nt