Bayh As Veep? But He Co-Chaired Neocon Committee For The Liberation Of Iraq With McCain!

[Douglas Carpenter]

Bayh As Veep? But He Co-Chaired Neocon Committee For The Liberation Of Iraq With McCain!

By Greg Sargent - July 16, 2008, 6:03PM

link:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php

"Senator Evan Bayh's appearance today with Barack Obama at the "21st Century Threats" summit has stirred a lot of talk in the press about the possibility of him being on Obama's Veep short-list.

But we're not sure that's such a viable idea. That's because in 2003, Bayh was an honorary co-chair of the neocon pro-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq -- a group he joined along with none other than John McCain and Joe Lieberman, according to a press release from during the run-up to the invasion.

Check this out, from the group's press release on February 14th, 2003 (via Nexis):

By Greg Sargent - July 16, 2008, 6:03PM
Senator Evan Bayh's appearance today with Barack Obama at the "21st Century Threats" summit has stirred a lot of talk in the press about the possibility of him being on Obama's Veep short-list.

But we're not sure that's such a viable idea. That's because in 2003, Bayh was an honorary co-chair of the neocon pro-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq -- a group he joined along with none other than John McCain and Joe Lieberman, according to a press release from during the run-up to the invasion.

Check this out, from the group's press release on February 14th, 2003 (via Nexis):

The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) is pleased to welcome Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) as an Honorary Co-Chairman. Bayh becomes the third U.S. Senator to join the committee after Sens. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) announced their participation on January 28.

The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann, whom Josh has been blogging about.

Bayh would, to put it very charitably, muddle Obama's message. It's true that Bayh was said to have subsequently removed himself from the group. But Obama's campaign is partly about -- and rightly so -- the judgment he made, and others didn't, in the run-up to the invasion.

The McCain campaign and the Repubs would have a grand time mocking the choice. Indeed, the McCain camp is already trying to make an issue of Bayh's past.".


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http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php

[Warpy]

1. A conservative on the ticket signals that the only change

Obama is interested in is a cosmetic one.

Not Bayh. Not ever.

[Douglas Carpenter]

2. Unfortunately, Evan Bayh is under VERY serious consideration right now

In fact be leads in the speculating on both Rasmussen Markets and Intrade Prediction Markets

Intrade Prediction Market is now speculating a 19.8% chance Sen. Bayh will be selected.

Sen. Biden is number two with Intrade speculating a 13.4% chance he will be selected

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/

Sen. Bayh also leads on Rasmussen Markets at 19.0%, followed by Sen. Biden at 13.0%

http://markets.rasmussenreports.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?selConID=68206

[dragonlady]

3. He's a bland, boring speaker--we don't need that n/t

[kas125]

5. As a Hoosier, I can tell you - he ignores his constituents.

We get more respect from Lugar than we do from Bayh. Lugar may not agree with us, but he replies to letters and makes himself available. Bays SAYS he agrees with us, but doesn't support us and ignores us. It took is THREE YEARS to get a town hall meeting with Bayh and when he finally did meet with us, he promised to it again in six months, to discuss the progress he's made trying to end the war. Six months was up in February and no matter how many times we ask, he's too busy. He can come to our county for everything else, but he won't meet with constituents. I do not want him as VP!

[Douglas Carpenter]

11. thanks for your input

[MasonJar]

4. I hope someone sends this to Barak and to his selection committee.

[Douglas Carpenter]

6. one little kick

[Phred42]

7. Unfortunately, Obama has never been all that Progressive

Let's hope he doesn't make the mistake of Hillary or Bayh or Hagel on the Ticket

:think:

[Douglas Carpenter]

8. I'm not even expecting a liberal or progressive on the ticket

I just don't want a foreign policy neoconservative.

I am one of the few people on the left who would actually be content with Sen. Hagel even though I know that he is a traditional Reagonite conservative on virtually every single domestic issue. Although I certainly do NOT think Sen. Hagel will be selected and I would more hope that he be selected for Secretary of State or perhaps Secretary of Defense. Sen. Hagel is a hawk, but a pragmatic and realist hawk not an ideologically driven foreign policy neoconservative NUT like Sen. Bayh

All issue of domestic programs and hopes for social advancement will come to not, if America finds itself in another intractable and un-winnable foolish adventure in the Middle East.

The very thought of some foreign policy extremist like Sen. Bayh potentially being in that capacity sends real chills up spine and quite literally gives me nightmares.

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"I think of war with Iran as the ending of America's present role in the world. Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it's still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we'll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Vanity Fair, 2006.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Supporting Hagel is fine

If you are open to supporting bigots. He's a huge homophobe. Same thing as being a huge racist. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

[Douglas Carpenter]

10. I didn't say I was supporting Hagel

I was making the point that on foreign policy issues he is at least NOT a neoconservative, like Sen. Bayh. And I recognize that he would likely at least be a a force for peace in the Middle East. As opposed to Sen. Bayh who would be a force for war.

Sen. Hagel is NOT going to be the Democratic nominee for Vice President. That is NOT going to happen. With Bayh it is entirely possible.

[Phred42]

12. The Case Against Hagel as V.P.: Listen Closely, Barack and Dems that don't get it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6517077&mesg_id=6517077