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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:13 PM
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The Real Reason that the Government Tortures Innocent People
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Reason-that-the-G-by-George-Washington-080724-220.html





The top experts agree that torture doesn't produce any useful information.

And the experts on national security agree that torture turns everyone against us, creates actual terrorists who want to kill us, and makes us less safe. Torture also makes it almost certain that our troops will be tortured by others.

But the U.S. has embarked on a coordinated policy of torture since 9/11. The U.S. has rounded up scores of innocent farmers and other civilians -- including children -- in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere and tortured them until they died, went crazy, or were disabled.

Why?

If torture doesn't do anything useful, and instead does alot of harmful things like dramatically weakening our national security an putting our troops in harms way, why are we doing it?

Well, listen to the testimony to Congress by a representative of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services:

"Governments that use torture intend to intimidate their citizens in order to maintain control; those who are tortured become examples of the consequences of dissent."
Indeed, this is a well-known tactic for brutal regimes. Take Zimbabwe, for example:

"Victims and eyewitnesses told Human Rights Watch that has set up detention centers . . . to round up and instill fear in suspected political opponents."
Torture is a form of terrorism, plain and simple. As the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services director told Congress:

"... torture is the deliberate mental and physical damage caused by governments to individuals to ... terrorize society."
The U.S. government is carrying out acts of terrorism on innocent victims - including children - in order to scare people into being compliant, into being too scared to demand their rights to liberty and justice guaranteed by the rule of law, into not challenging the powers-that-be.

Those who created, implemented or covered up the U.S. torture policy are not only war criminals, they are also terrorists.



Authors Website: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/

Authors Bio: George Washington


George Washington is a pen name. I am using the pen name, with the approval of the publisher, because I have received death threats due to my 9/11 research and writing. I am using a pen name to protect myself and my family.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:40 PM
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1. "Those who are tortured become examples of the consequences of dissent."
Lavinia Limon; Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement Administration for Children and Families, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, before the House Committee on International Relations, Subcommittee on International Operations and Human Rights; June 29, 1999

Today, she is President and Chief Executive Officer of the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants (USCRI)



http://www.refugees.org/

Doing God's work
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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:41 PM
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2. Do tell
doing dastardly deeds to "intimidate their citizens in order to maintain control; those who are tortured become examples of the consequences of dissent" would also apply to the old Southern custom of lynching African Americans. Every person lynched "sent a message" to others who might feel the urge to get "uppity" and demand things like the right to vote or drink from a public water fountain.

The current "government" is establishing the precedent of torture so to be able to use it willy nilly against any or all of us who might find some effective way of speaking or acting against them.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:19 PM
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3. The ultimate sign of illegitimate rule.
That they even WANT to do it, is all you need to know.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:09 PM
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4. There's the element of human experimentation.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 10:10 PM by bluesmail
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:13 PM
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5. Given corporate political control of govt, another reason for torture is
to weaken the one force on the planet that can control and regulate the "liberty" of these disloyal multinational monsters to do as they please, where they please, whenever they please. Torture does a great job of weakening and discrediting the USA in the eyes of the world, and much of its own population.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:15 PM
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6. I used to surf through the pages on the Official website of the
CIA.

Along with some of the things that were published there relating to PNAC, there was also an oddball entry about the difficulty that CIA experts had with regards to how they would go about getting our service people to turn on their fellow citizens.

Since reading that CIA website entry (And I had to have read it back in the winter of 2001-2002) I have always thought that one of the reason for the torture was simply so that the government could identify who would be willing to do these things to us. No other reason, to my way of thinking.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 04:41 AM
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7. Like an Audition?
Or a trial by fire....
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 03:27 PM
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8. excellent , something to look forward to
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