History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps

[Winston.]

Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 04:01:36 AM PDT

So what if I told you that the powers of financial capitalism (bankers etc.), had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands, able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.

This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations?

Rest of article here, well worth reading: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641

[antigop]

1. And who is a sponsor of the CFR.ORG?

http://www.cfr.org/about/giving/sponsors.html

[Peace Patriot]

2. Thanks! A little more quotation of the article is needed, to grasp its importance.

"...you can put away the cat in the tinfoil hat. Those are not my words. And it's not a theory. They are the words of one of the greatest, most eminent historians in modern times, the late Carroll Quigley - of Harvard, Princeton and the Georgetown Foreign School.

"Here is bill Clinton referring to his former college professor Quigley at the 1992 Democratic convention:

'As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest nation in history because our people had always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so.'

"Quigley could write credibly about the far reaching aims of these ruling elites because he himself was a member of the ruling class and, as such, he was given unprecedented access to their private files and records. When he published these words in his 1300 page tome, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, not only was he adding to the historical record a previously untold story, he was making history himself in doing so.

"The story I am about to share is critically important. One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it - behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world. And it is only with this historical understanding that we can understand the forces shaping our world, and possibly hope to affect them...."

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641

[Peace Patriot]

5. The writer says "this is not a conspiracy theory" once too often.

Then he (she?) contradicts himself...thus:

"The point is to draw light on this hidden part of our history and the inner workings of the one percent of one percent. They love the shadows and secrecy. They control the flow of information to a horrifying extent. They have untold influence over our government in ways most people can't imagine.

"And they have a perilous vision for our world. Who has jurisdiction over a transnational economy. Who can regulate it? What democratic institution can even stand up to it?

"This is the central downfall of the globalization idea. As David Rothkopf observes in this Newsweek column, having a global economy is great for the pirates, but is devasting for democracy, sovereignty, and justice."

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So, he's saying, hey, there is a new conspiracy--similar to, and derived from, the Cecil Rhodes conspiracy of the rich, back prior to 1929--but DON'T SAY IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

And now it's WORSE. It's fully globalized!

There's a very funny riff on the use of the phrase "conspiracy theory" (what kind of people use it) by Abra Crabcakeya, wa-a-ay down in the comments at D-kos. And there are LOTS AND LOTS of comments. Quite a lively discussion, which I intend to plunge into (as a lurker).

As I have Paul Revere say (he didn't really say it)--and as every average Joe and Jane with half a brain knows: "Anyone who isn't a conspiracy theorist these days isn't paying attention."

But I'm thinking of changing it to the following:

"Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!" --Franklin Delano Roosevelt

That's the kind of president we need to battle this new cabal of ungodly rich fuckwad global conspirators. But we aren't going to get it--or even a half decent Congress to stop the president from torturing prisoners and killing a million people to get their oil--cuz the fuckwad rich now own the voting machines, with their 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote counting code. And, until we change that, we get what we deserve.

[Peace Patriot]

7. Tin Hat Mafia posted a great Jefferson quote in the comments at Dkos...

"I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." - Thomas Jefferson

I hadn't come across that quote before. But I do know that Jefferson made the fatal mistake of trusting to the states the chartering of corporations. He made it in good faith, believing that the process of regulating the corporations should be close to the people. He had altogether too much trust in state democracies, although--bless him--the states were given power over voting systems, and largely retain that power today--likely our only hope of getting rid of 'TRADE SECRET' CODE voting machines, owned and controlled by Bushite corporations, since ordinary people still have some influence at the state/local level. In this respect, you all should pay attention to the fight in New York over their old, reliable, virtually unriggable, and ENTIRELY PUBLICLY OWNED AND CONTROLLED lever voting machines, vs. the bully boys of the Bush Junta, who sued New York to force it into SECRET CODE elections, like all of the rest of us suckers.

But I digress. Corporations were supposed to be (and were for about 100 years) TEMPORARY business consortia, formed for the common good. They were never meant to be the monsters they have turned into today, which live forever, gobbling up land, resources, VAST amounts of money and VAST power over our government--such that they can now hijack the U.S. military for a corporate resource war. They are STILL chartered by the states, by the way, who COULD pull the charters of the worst malefactors, dismantle them and seize their assets for the common good, or, at least, REGULATE these monsters (bust monopolies, demand common good provisions in their charters, etc.). Theoretically, anyway. They will come down on any state AG, with a million tons of bricks, who steps forward in the public interest, and tries it, but it would be worth it, to get that crucial battle started.

Corporate Rule has become so like the Medieval Catholic Church, that it can freeze your mind in horror to realize that it took one ONE THOUSAND YEARS to start throwing off that tyranny. But I don't think it's going to take us that long. Things move faster these days, due in no small part to the very globalization these particular tyrants have imposed on the world. And they're trashing the planet at such a fast clip, we may see the meltdown of the human race before we ever get on our feet to end this corrupt structure, with its religion of "dog eat dog," and create the Second Enlightenment. Anyway, we've got to start somewhere. In the states, by some courageous state AG or other office holder, backed by a peoples' movement, could be the starting point--on election reform, corporate rule or other essential reforms.

It's funny how the election reform issue has flipped around on the matter of "states' rights." In the 1960s, it was essential that the federal government intervene in elections in the segregated south, because blacks were unable to vote. Today, we have the opposite situation--the federal government imposing NON-TRANSPARENT voting systems, run by BUSHITE CORPORATIONS, on the states--through corruption and coercion. Our local/state control over election systems is probably our only hope of reversing this--and every move Congress makes (Dem or Puke, it doesn't matter)--and certainly those the Bush Junta has made--further erodes that local/state power.

[Uncle Joe]

3. Kicked and recommended, well worth reading.

Thanks for the thread, Winston.

http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

P.S. After reading down that diary thread, I noticed a poster stating that if you read Professor Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope", get the first edition, apparently the second and third editions have been so altered as to be akin to book burning.

[LongTomH]

4. This is really interesting:

The paragraphs about: "Infiltrating the Left-wing and the New Republic"

More than fifty years ago the Morgan firm decided to infiltrate the Left-wing political movements in the United States. This was relatively easy to do, since these groups were starved for funds and eager for a voice to reach the people. Wall Street supplied both. The purpose was not to destroy ... or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could "blow off steam," and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."

There was nothing really new about this decision, since other financiers had talked about it and even attempted it earlier. What made it decisively important this time was the combination of its adoption by the dominant Wall Street financier, at a time when tax policy was driving all financiers to seek tax-exempt refuges for their fortunes, and at a time when the ultimate in Left-wing radicalism was about to appear under the banner of the Third International.

Robert Anton Wilson, your problem was that you weren't paranoid enough! :tinfoilhat:

[Winston.]

6. to have a final veto ...

... to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."

And that is why any questions regarding 911 is not permitted, because this whole house of cards they have built over the years could collapse if the "official" conspiracy theory was revealed to be a lie.

[RC]

8. Liberal, as in DLC