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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:57 PM
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Krauthammer says Palin disastrous pick.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:00 PM
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1. jesus even that hard right nutball do`t like her
oh well charlie , you got her so live with it
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:30 AM
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6. Most thinking Jews, even those who are as wrong headed as
Krauthammer, would do right by being very leery of Sarah Palin and what she represents. She is being sold to us as a "hockey mom" but she is far more. She is an extremist Christian who believes in a narrow interpretation of the bible.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:17 AM
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9. If Palin believes in narrrow interpretation of the Bible, does she support stoning her daughter?
What about the part of the Bible that talks about women being subservient to men?

Geez, where do we start with Bible verses on women and things they're supposed to be doing. Does her husband isolate her and not even touch her during her menstrual period?

This can get funny.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:38 PM
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11. Not sure but I don't think moose is kosher
Oh but I forgot only PARTS of Leviticus are important to fundie Christians.

Pork...they love it
Shrimp...gotta have it

Homosexuals...KILL, KILL, KILL....

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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:17 PM
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28. Moose is kosher.... it has the right kind of hoof...
that's the bottom line: the kind of hoof...

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:09 PM
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2. Would someone please tell me what her "her contribution to the reform theme" is?
She is reigniting the culture wars wants to outlaw abortion hates gays and can only sing saint ray gun's failed cut taxes, remove all restraints from parasitic corporations song.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:19 PM
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3. She HAD a veneer as a reformer.
It was a complete fabrication, and it is rapidly disappearing.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:37 PM
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4. Krauthammer also says that he himself is an ass
With everything else he says in the article.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:53 PM
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5. That would almost make me want to read another article by him.
Almost.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:43 AM
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7. Everytime I see Krauthammer
I can't help but wonder if his remaining living relatives considered filing a lawsuit against the embalmer for malpractice...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:14 PM
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16. Good one. LOL
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:00 AM
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8. He's worried about her only having 9 weeks.
um, Charles, you want her to have even LESS time for the populace to discover who she truly is. She would WHITHER under the scrutiny given to the "neophyte" Obama.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:21 AM
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10. How will they handle the debate with Biden?
Are they putting all of their eggs in that one debate basket?

Who's moderating this debate? What's the format? That will play a part in making Palin looking better.

Has Palin ever been in a debate before when running for mayor or governor? If so, is there any video footage out there? She could be a tiger in debates. I'm just saying, don't get overconfident and bring your A-game whenever she does come out.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:14 PM
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12. Krauthhammer and Will
Both of these staunch right-wing political pundits opposed the nomination of McCain as being a disaster. Now listen to them. Just a couple of hypocrites like Limbaugh, Hannity and the crew that have done so much to destroy our nation along with their religious nit-wits like Dobson. When will Americans wake up.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:34 PM
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13. Gwen Ifill moderating - an historic opportunity
and I hope she grabs it.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:55 PM
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15. She's a Dem. And she don't care for McCain. Palin's a dead woman!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:01 PM
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21. there is tape out there. she gets hot and snippy in debates.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:07 PM
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18. She doesn't even have 9 weeks.
She's down to at least 7 weeks since they're keeping her sequestered for the next 2.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:46 PM
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31. Can you count it as 9 weeks when she has hidden from
the populace and the press? They are hoping they can coach her to get through the debate...this is why Biden must destroy her in a kind and gentle way!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:41 PM
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14. Yikes. He's a dead-ender. Never opposes anything Republican :) k*r
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Dormantboy Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:39 PM
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17. I agree with Krauthammer
for the first time in my life, hehe.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:25 AM
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25. This is the *second* time I've agreed with him this year!
He had a column earlier in the summer about raising gas taxes to discourage consumption and enable the development of alternate technologies. I know, I know, this is blindingly obvious, but this was a Republican saying it. Republicans normally deny obvious solutions; they don't write columns advocating them.
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Mesteryo Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:52 PM
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19. This part bothers me most
"Palin promises a twofer because of her potential appeal to the swing-state Reagan Democrats that Hillary Clinton carried in the primaries. Not for reasons of gender -- Clinton didn't carry those voters because she was a woman -- but because more culturally conservative working-class whites might find affinity with Palin's small-town, middle/frontier American narrative and values."


I'm sick of pundits like Sour Kraut thinking that middle class voters will completely ignore a candidate's policy positions in favor of if the candidate looks like an "ordinary" man or woman. You end up getting Bush wearing cowboy boots to convince us he's one of us.

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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:57 PM
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20. Massive rationalization by him toward the end of the article.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 03:58 PM by OmelasExpat
He never seems to ask himself what it means to the ticket to have the star power coming from the V.P. slot, rather than the Presidential pick.

Nor what it might mean to the moderate Republicans who are trying to come to terms with her as someone designed to appeal to the radicals in their party, not them.

He would probably say that McCain would rein her in as the established moderate, but what does his pick say about him as a moderate? Krauthammer uses the terms "reckless" and "crazy brave", not terms a moderate would ever want to associate themselves with. And that's assuming he survives a theoretical term long enough to rein her in.

Despite his desperate hail-mary rationalizations, McCain's pick of Palin ensures only one thing - that Obama/Biden will be the only reliable, business-friendly ticket in November.

As usual for conservative commentators, even when they get the problem figured out somewhat right they get the solution disasterously wrong.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:38 PM
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22. You know what, Charlie? Fuck you. FUCK. YOU.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 11:44 PM by hatrack
We weren't the ones offering breathless, giddy support of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for the past eight years - it was you.

We weren't among the ones who just couldn't fall on their knees quickly enough to fellate double handfuls of Decider Dong when the farcically ill-planned invasion of Iraq became the biggest strategic mistake since Vietnam - but you were right there in the front row, waiting anxiously for the Presidential Unzipping.

We weren't the ones who got paid to somehow miraculously avoid noticing the Grand Canyon-sized gap between the 2000 nominees, one of them able and highly intelligent, the other a fumbling slack-jawed effusion of membership in the preppie Lucky Sperm Club, bizarrely crossed with a Texas-sized sense of entitlement and arrogance - but somehow you avoided the glaringly obvious with the dexterity of Yeats' long-legged fly upon the stream.

We weren't among the ones harrumphing over John Kerry's perceived "elitism" or beating that bony ol' pony as to how out of touch he was with ordinary voters, debate performance or command of the issues or general intelligence notwithstanding - but you were.

And we weren't among the ones applauding the blitzkrieg jump-cut triumph of political marketing over issues, of shiny speeches and shiny objects over any substantive discussion of just how fucked up this country has become after eight years of blatant disregard of the Constitution, the law, the structure of government, and a full-throated shout-down of the realities of climate, energy and the environment, but you were A-OK with it, as long as "your crowd" held the reins.

And now, with the Constitution in shambles, with full-on voter lobotomization in process, with stolen elections successful two times running with a third in the wings and with deafening silence for YEARS coming from you and the remainder of the "adults" . . .

Now, with a raving fucking loony Pentecostal who believes that God punishes Israel through terrorism for refusing to convert to Christianity, and that Alaska will be a refuge for the faithful in the "Last Days" very possibly within one heartbeat of the football . . .

NOW you have problems with the boatload of clowns you've apologized and rationalized and lied for for the past decade?

Well FUCK YOU. Here's your bed. You made it. Go to FUCKING SLEEP in it, you condescending, arrogant turd.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:00 PM
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27. Good job hatrack.
Right on the goddammed money. :thumbsup:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:04 AM
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23. Morton Kondracke doesn't like her, either
Actually, I thought Faux had disappeared old Mort when he expressed his views on the "All-Star Panel" and was conspicuously missing for 2-3 days after a red-faced Bill Kristol got in his face over it.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:30 AM
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26. Kondracke is about as close as Faux comes to "fair and balanced".
But that's like being voted the smartest of the Three Stooges.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:41 AM
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24. Krauthammer is a member of the ruling class, like Bush
Bush does very well at faking being a fundie, but our real elites don't approve of them at all, even as they troll for their votes.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:24 PM
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29. this is from almost 3 weeks ago... he hadn't gotten the memo that says everyone loves her yet. n/t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:52 PM
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30. Krauty also said that Gore was trying to steal the election in Florida.
Simply because he was asking to count the votes. So don't put too much stock in Krauty's honesty. Stopped clock....etc.
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