Rove isn't a "genius". He's just an evil pig who fights dirty.

[wcepler]

So, can we please, please stick a pin once and for all into the "deification" balloon of Karl Rove by Democrats?

Nothing could be more absurd than intellectually intimidated Democrats by Republicans! Hey, will everyone please WAKE UP? The Democratic/Progressive Party (progressives MUST be included in this) is the ONLY truly literate, scientific, and broadly civilized party in America.

WE pass all the bills supporting medical research, all levels of education, scientific research in general, the fine arts, life and death alternative energy projects, etc.

In short, the Democratic/Progressive Party is the party of science, culture, and human civilization at its best.

But perhaps most of all, the D/P Party is the party of conscience, compassion, and humanity. Said differently (if a little oddly), if Jesus Christ were alive now and he wanted to participate in politics, you tell me, would he be spending time with Karl Rove? Or, more generally, would Jesus Christ (or Buddha or Mohamed or the Hebrew Prophets) be members of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party? Every heart in America knows the answer to this question would NEVER be the Republican Party.

But back to Rove. Please think about this. There's something profoundly self destructive and limiting about putting other people on "pedestals".

Remember the book, "Bush's Brain"? This came out when people were practically genuflecting in front of the Republican PR creation of Karl Rove. I half expected little Rove "holy cards" or small statuettes to be handed out on street corners. Of course, the "Bush's Brain" book (which was NOT deifying Rove, by the way) was enormously entertaining in the sense that discovering you were the "brain" of George W. Bush would be a ghastly realization.

Indeed, I for one am perfectly willing to think of Rove as Bush's pea brain.

However, such grotesqueries aside, let's focus on the heart of the matter.

May we try out this syllogism?

(a.) Karl Rove gets results.

(b.) People who get results are intelligent.

(c.) Therefore, Karl Rove is intelligent

Formerly, the argument is correct, but the problem is the second claim (or premise), which is now going to be unconditionally challenged.

The "result getting" of Rove is not proof of exceptional intelligence, but proof of exceptional evil.

Karl Rove is merely a high profile example of a phenomenon all of us have seen over and over again (usually starting in school). People who "fight dirty" almost always win. This is blatantly obvious in sports competitions when, say, a fighter keeps "hitting beneath the belt" of another fighter. Well, if he keeps getting away with it, the dirty fighter is going to win.

But this isn't only true for sports, it's also true of business (I bet several of you have been on the butt end of dirty business tactics), and its ALSO TRUE FOR POLITICS.

Hence, this is the see spot run simple explanation of Rove's "result's". Yes, the schemes he cooks up can be somewhat convoluted and secretive, but that's not what makes them work (of course, most of his schemes actually HAVEN'T worked, but that's another story).

What makes Rove's strategies work (when they do), is not his "genius", but the fact that he is exploiting the good will and decency of people who DON'T fight dirty. If EVERYONE fought dirty, Karl Rove would be invisible, but the humanly admirable fact (even though it's accompanied with vulnerability) is that most human beings wouldn't dream to sinking to Karl Rove tactics.

So, intelligence belongs to Democrats, not Republicans (and the objective evidence for this is mountainous) and it is very counter productive not to take credit for kick ass IQ, especially when it manifests itself in society in such a variety of forms.

Not to be unkind, but compare EITHER of the Clinton's to Sarah Palin and John McCain. Enough said?

And no, I certainly haven't forgotten our splendid Barack Obama and Joe Biden, but it's almost cruel to remind Republicans that class, intelligence, and humanity are qualities they can only see, but never touch.

And while we're at it, why not compare an amphibian (look it up, George) to George W. Bush (the first president in American history to have an IQ in the negative numbers).

God in heaven, guys and gals, if Palin, McCain, Bush, and Rove are the best the pugs can come up with, it's time to seriously examine the thesis the Republicans are a different species. I guess at least they're bipedal, erect primates.

Another important aspect of fighting dirty is that even if team A (the dirty fighting team -- or political party) wins and gets results in the short run, frequently once team B (that's us) realizes their losses have NOTHING to do with the prowess of team A and/or the ineptitude of team B, this can be a liberating moment of truth, and team B comes out of the locker room after half time "pumped up" for victory, victory, and nothing but victory -- and after the game, the remnants of team A are shoveled off the field.

So, forget the prowess of Karl Rove. He doesn't have any. He's just a piece of filth who takes advantage of kind and innocent people.

And if you're a Democrat, please celebrate the fact that you belong to the American Party that has ALWAYS been the cutting edge of civilization.

One last thing. Perhaps it’s a little weird for me to say this, but my Doctorate is mathematics and I doubt Karl Rove couldn't pass ANY of my math classes.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

<http://theliberationofrealism.blogspot.com/>

ps: You folks can delete this if you wish, but I’m going have a little fun and cook up 3 o4 math questions as a kind of pretend entrance exam for Karl Rove. Who knows, maybe he’ll answer.  I’ll make them very conceptual so we don’t get bogged down in mathematical notation or symbology. I’ll also include some “answers” below – naturally, Karl will look at them in advance.

(1.) Speaking of which, here’s a kind of philosophical math question. True or false. The essence of mathematics IS the notation/symbology, e.g., the notation for derivatives and integrals.

(2.) What happens when you try to find the indefinite integral for the pdf (probability density function) of the normal random variable? Note, the graph of this pdf is the famous bell shaped curve.

(3.) The quadratic equation has the quadratic formula for its closed for solution. Does the fifth degree (quintic) polynomial also have a closed from solution? If not, why not?

(4.) Fermat’s Last Theorem argued that x^n = y^n + z^n (sorry about the carrot notation for exponents) was true only if n = 2. For example if n is a counting number greater than 2, it would always be false. This was undecided for hundreds of years, but fairly recently a proof was found. Did the proof confirm or deny Fermat’s conjecture?

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Ok Karl, here’s the dope;

(1.) Absolutely not. Indeed confusing mathematics with its symbology may well be the most common misunderstanding of mathematics. Math is what the notation is “about”, not mathematics itself, almost exactly like musical notation which is itself not music, but “directions” that tell you what to do to make music. Now of course math music is mental, but it can still be exceedingly beautiful.

(2.) Nothing happens because the normal pdf is a transcendental function without a corresponding indefinite integral. Said differently, there IS NO function whose derivative is that pdf. So, April Fool, not all functions can be integrated.

(3.) No, there is no closed form solution (even though there is for linear, quadratic, cubic, and quartic polynomials). The “why” question was a dirty trick, since this discovery helped to open up a vast area of abstract math called modern algebra (VERY different from ordinary algebra).

(4.) Yes, it was proved to be true a few years ago, but take a deep breath before you look at the proof, because it is a very long, convoluted monster of subtlety.
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What do you think, folks? Did “genius” Karl Rove answer even one question?

[nerddem]

1. i agree

but he got the big one. winning the presidency--in his case, regardless of how--is still the proverbial feather in the proverbial cap. we can't deny that.

but then again, that seems the common dem vs. goppy theme, that we're better on issues, we're better on being decent human beings, etc, but they play dirty and win, and in the end, it's the winners that write history and the winners that pass legislation, so no matter how morally we approached our elections, we lose so in the end it doesn't mean shit

[GoesTo11]

3. He has hurt America by what he has done

Genius in that he was willing to hurt America to win.

In past elections, parties at least thought that they should win because they would be better for America. He just said "I don't care." and his tactics divided the country.

[nerddem]

12. you're right,

however that's the sad, sad truth and not much else. being better for america is an afterthought for them, all they're interested in is winning.

[flamingdem]

2. While we're at it let's not help the media and republicans by being so freaked about Palin also nt

[BeFree]

4. But

She is a freak. A fundie freak who is now in range of becoming your president. All it will take is a quiet little tweak of the voting machines, and there she is. After she does Mcsame in.

What a plan. It is damn near rovian. He ain't dead yet, y'know.

[flamingdem]

8. aaarg. It's too surreal to contemplate .. nt

[BeFree]

11. Ya gotta be tough

Real politics is not for the weak hearted. The shit I've seen.......

[glinda]

17. Range of Becoming President-Rovian Tactics

Okay. You know that everything that the Repubs threw at Obama was to deter them or the media from delving into or commenting on those areas on Palin. That is so Rove. Like his " Obama's Religious extremist Minister" thing, his "parading his kids in the public eye" thing, his "qualifications" thing and on and on. They know she is not qualified. There must be a plan. They must be counting on McCain either passing on, getting sick or being unable to perform in office. Maybe he won't get to office? As if he is even capable now. So what is up the sleeve? What is it???????? I keep thinking it has to do with a quick switcheroo. What would happen if McCain got right up to election or during election, he died? Would Pain be President then who would be VP?????? Pelosi?????? Or can they call it a dead election??????? What would happen if Palin could not run due to so much legal crap in her background? Who fills in? Rove? Cheney? the other Bush? We know McCain will not be capable to be aware of what a President should be aware of if he gets in let alone Palin being aware of anything at all so we know neither one of them are running the campaign nor will be running the Country.

[nerddem]

20. and yet, if you look at state-by-state polling,

we're back up past 300 evs! combine that with the $10 million we raised explicitly because of her, and i'd say sarah palin is a winning combination--for us, haha

[JaneQPublic]

5. His goal was a permanent GOP majority, and he accomplished the opposite

The GOP is in a worse state than it's been in decades, largely because of him.

A smaller portion of the public now identifies as a Republican than has in a long time.

In all likelihood the GOP will experience big losses in November at the state, local, and national levels.

You're right. He's no genius, just crooked and dirty. By rights, he should be in prison for the Plame case and the Dem Governor he helped wrongly throw in jail (can't think of his name.)

[wcepler]

6. Boobus Americana

Thanks, yeah I just can't take this guy seriously anymore. If the national/international status quo is a measure of his effectiveness, he's the worst thing that ever happened to the Republican Party.

In fact, you know, some folks are seriously speculating that way, WAY behind the scenes, the core, elite pugs are actually engineering this election to lose in order to purge it of religious fanatics, and Rovian megalomania. I think this is a plausible possibility, since a few decades ago they did something very much like this.

In the context of this theory, the choice of dum dum McCain and topless beauty queen Palin (who is certainly giving a totally new meaning to the phrase boobus America) makes incredibly ironic sense.

So she has the support of a few brain dead religious fanatics (Duh), she also has what should be a criminal record for murdering Mother Nature. Plus, she's an airhead, there's simply no way around this. She would have to have cue cards in all her political interactions -- some of which would probably have to include her name.

Point being that these two clowns are virtual ground glass for the pugs. The more Palin's sordid, cruel, and anti children and environmental past becomes public (which it will!) is the more she won't be an albatross around McCain's senile ambitions, she will be a dead and rotting albatross.

Indeed I find myself moving away from the entire Palin subject because she's already so dead in the water and we should go back to singing the praises of OUR candidates, who need all the publicity they can get in the face of our Judas media.

Last thought. IF Obama and Biden are elected, I hope millions and millions of us NEVER forget the infinite betrayal of the American media -- just like the collaborators in France in WW2, whom I seem to recall were NEVER forgiven and massively dealt with.

Bill

[flamingdem]

19. Good point to remember who the MSM was ... even if they straighten out after O is elected nt

[Tutonic]

7. I think it is kind of clever that the REpubs actually taught a fat nasty

pig to speak...er uh squeak.

[Stardust]

23. LOL. I was just going to chime in about thinking he looks just like a pig

(with apologies to good pigs everywhere) and I'm amazed that he's advanced so far given his repulsive appearance.

And as for being a genius ... well, I've known geniuses, and you, Mr. Rove, are no genius. Just e-v-i-l.

[CitizenPatriot]

9. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I agree 100%.

We are the smarter ones. Indeed, if we put our minds to fighting dirty, trust me, we'd do a fuck of a lot better job of it.

I have recently starting thinking that the Republicans ARE another species. They are so sub-human and they actually present odd affectations, attempts at emotion, etc which disturb me. No, I'm not tinfoil hat theorist, but I have to say they are not the same as us. fundamentally. We are playing different games.

Liberals bring the Age of Enlightenment. Appreciation for art, science, humanities, philosophy, et al; all things mocked by the sports-obsessed (roman Coliseum, gladiators,?), reality show-watching, American Idol stupor-induced republicans.

If we stopped being afraid of Rove, it would be a tremendous thing. We should think of him like a spoiled, sociopathic 4 year old. Sure he gets his way if we aren't good parents. But we are in charge because we should be in charge. We need to stop apologizing for being better than them and get on with the responsibilities of it. It's that liberal wish for inclusion and fair treatment which has been our undoing thus far. But I suspect we are over that. Not because we no longer embrace those values, but rather because we have matured enough to realize not everyone wants to be in our game and they will ruin the world if we let them. Not everyone deserves to be treated well (indeed, how can there be justice when the criminals continue getting the same benefits as the good citizens?) and there really IS such a thing as empirical fact. Not this bs about my opinion and your opinion that the most dogmatic, misinformed throw around like every day is jerry springer on acid day.

thanks for the great post. enlightenment will come -- let's fucking claim it. we deserve it.

[OnionPatch]

10. He's simply willing to stoop lower, yes.

That has always been my opinion. It's not that so many others couldn't think up the schemes he does, it's that most people wouldn't stoop that low because they value their honor. And also because people who stoop low are usually outed and end up shaming the causes they support. I'd say Karl is getting to that point now.

[unblock]

13. exactly. if he were really a genius, he wouldn't have to cheat.

[wcepler]

14. perfect, perfect, perfect

Perfect, perfect, perfect! Thank you.

And may I insert a little comic relief. Palin is giving a wildly different meaning to Mencken's phrase "boobus Americana". Her bare boobed past (she was a topless beauty queen)has clearly mesmerized John McCain, but since both his present and past wives were beauty queens (not sure about topless), I guess this is male menopause to the max. Pitiful, but at least he's keeping the sitcom going.

Bill

[unblock]

16. topless? i haven't heard that one.

well, as an internet joke, sure. but not in reality.

[wcepler]

18. it seems legit

Topless Miss Wasilia 1984 Sarah Palin

[Dj13Francis]

15. I've read Decartes

I believe "evil genius" is the wrong term as well. But I'll readily admit it does seem as though it does fit somehow.

[samsingh]

21. and i'm sad to say that at least 30% of the people are just

stupid

[wcepler]

24. scabs

Yep, without dead weight enablers and scabs, the elite fascists would be powerless. The elites aren't dominant because of their intelligence and strength -- they're dominant because deadhead scabs are TOTALLY out of the loop of civilization. Indeed, they are the "host" for religious fanatics and Nazi/fascists. They're also the parasites who keep trying to eat the bread of the little red hen (i.e., passionate, patriotic, liberals and dems).

[txwhitedove]

22. Exactly right. Rove's NOT genius, just uses bully tactics!

:thumbsup:

[bemildred]

25. That works for me.

He has appeared to be just another corrupt weasel to me all along. US politics, God knows, is full of them. Some ass gets the wind from the Mighty Wurlitzer behind him for a while and thinks he's a genius.

[AdHocSolver]

26. Rove isn't a genius. He is an adept MAGICIAN or PICKPOCKET.

The skill of the magician or pickpocket is in distracting the audience, or target, into watching the left hand while performing the trick, or picking a pocket, with the right hand.

Both magicians and pickpockets may use assistants or shills in helping to distract the audience.

In the Republican case, the shills are often members of the mainstream media.

It works too often because a large number of Americans are credulous, willing, often eager, to be fooled. This is one reason why slogans and sound bites are so effective.

What we have to do is expose the fraud without putting the "victim" on the defensive.

[Skittles]

27. CORRECT

his "genius" is the ability to do things that would turn the stomach of any decent person

[wcepler]

28. Beautifully put

Indeed, that has always been the "power" of evil -- and the evil we face now is every bit has monstrous as the Nazis in WW2. Of course, many people realistically and honestly think that Nazi horror only went underground until it has reappeared in the US with the Bush Family. Ironically, America really saved Europe from the fascists in both of the world wars -- but we have no one to save us . . .

[classysassy]

29. A just nation

If there was true justice in this country,Mr Rove would be in cell block #9.

[katty]

30. that's the prob Dems take high road-while GOP keeps fight dirty

with their sickening dramatics--they keep the MSM braindead occupied and deliberately distracted from the issues (not that the presstitutes need nudging with that!)