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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:53 PM
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Barack Obama's Pet Peacock - Olbermann Broadcast Corporation
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 02:18 PM by cyberpj
I saw this copy of National Review on the mail bench at my condo today and was interested enough in what they would say to find their site and read the article online.

September 15, 2008
COVER STORY
Olbermann Broadcast Corporation
Keith Olbermann’s MSNBC is not becoming a network for liberals. No. Under Olbermann, MSNBC is in the process of becoming a network for the far Left — a development that poses a big problem for NBC’s news division.
By Stephen Spruiell




Well, guess what? You can't. You have to subscribe. And you have to pay to subscribe
So I went back to the mail bench and gave the article a quick read.
Wow.
Is this thing published by Murdoch and/or Fox network?!?!?

They really tear Olbermann apart and then they say because he got some ratings that he now commands everyone at MSNBC from his own boss to his own boss's boss and even that he refused to go on the air after moving to their new building until he got an office without a window in the door - portraying him as a childish temper tamtrum thrower. For good measure they throw Kos under the bus with him.

Not having been familiar with this magazine before seeing it today, perhaps you all already know it as a hatchet rag of the far right (it also includes many articles about John McCain - The POW and his advanced ideas for America) but I thought it worth sharing here anyway because of the increased danger these media lies pose to other readers who might pick one up in a doctor's office or something.

Now I'll be interested to hear what Keith Olbermann and Duers have to say in response.

Is there nothing to be done about a runaway lying media in this country?


http://nrd.nationalreview.com/
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:57 PM
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1. Waaaaa Keith got them scared?
Prety pathetic.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:58 PM
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2.  It's another whining right wing fascistic rah-rah rag.
Founded by William F. Buckley, Jr. ages ago. They aren't worth a response.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:04 PM
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6. Noted. And to a serious (dangerous?) degree I'd say after speed reading it before returning it!
"Fascistic" is the right word from what I read.

And now (unfortunately) I guess I know a little bit more about one of my condo neighbors.


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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:09 PM
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7. "And now (unfortunately) I guess I know a little bit more about one of my condo neighbors."
Yeah, I know how you feel. But you always have us DUers to hang with. :hi:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:11 PM
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10. Thank Goodness!
:grouphug:
:hi:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:00 PM
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3. There is a very old Chinese saying...
which can be applied, metaphorically, to the present situation:

There are two kinds of people in the world: Those who are willing to kill, and those who are willing to be killed.

In this case, the media is willing to kill the Democratic party, and the Democratic party is willing to be killed.

I have yet to see any will to fight back effectively against this trend.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:02 PM
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4. Don't ya think that idea was debunked when KO & CM were
taken off the anchor desk for any future debates and election night? I know I was pi**ed off enough to send one of the nasties letters I've ever sent to anyone, to MSNBC & NBC for cowtowing to the Pubs! I asked just how much money it took to make them buckle under?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:10 PM
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8. I thought that might have been a response to all the infighting between Keith Tweety and Scarborough
I love the discourse but all those open mic mistakes and snarking at each other didn't look very good.

I'm ok with Gregory -- not really on board with those who don't like him.

But yes, it would demonstrate that Keith wasn't in charge since he was taken off the coverage.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:15 PM
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12. Actually I think his removal had more to do with that
appolgy he made for his network airing the 911 video at the Pub Convention. Everything I read indicated KO & CM were removed from the anchor desk because they were too partisan.

I must say I was pleased with all 3 shows last night. Hardball, Countdown, and Rachel! I was worried that MSNBC had gaged all of them. Thank God I was wrong!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:03 PM
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5. We all know that Fox News is the McCain News Network (and all Republicans News Network as well)!
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 02:04 PM by GreenTea
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:11 PM
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9. On the one hand, one has to be willing to read
in order to see what this right wing nutbar has to say, so that leaves a good percentage of the electorate who will never see it. On the other hand, wingheads like Hannity and Kristol actually read and will get on their blogs and TV shows and disseminate this crap word for word.

Too bad the writer(s) can't be jailed for slander or libel or for simply being a Rightwing Republican.



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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:16 PM
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13. AND - For those who also don't know it's reputation -- just having a 'source' to quote looks good.
I'm all for free speech but I also think there should be hard and fast libel/slander laws upheld without it costing the victims a small fortune to expose.

And you're right, the main problem is that this stuff will be quoted and repeated mercilessly - just like everything else they spout - until it's accepted as the truth by those who don't know any better.

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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:13 PM
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11. These guys will whine whenever the Left
obtains access to the ears of Americans. They can't compete in a free marketplace of ideas ... so they have to suppress the speech of others. That's all. Nothing to get upset about here. Same old stuff.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 02:26 PM
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14. Wait... Wait!! I forgot one of the best parts!! - This issue includes a 1-hr pre-release DVD of
OBSESSION (with the O replaced by the Islam symbol) -
"Radical Islam's War Against The West-
A new film that will change the way you look at the world from the creators of "Relentless: the Struggle for Peace in the Middle East. The film also traces the parallels between the Nazi movement of WWII, the Radicals of today, and the Western world's response to both threats."

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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:00 PM
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15. Radical Islam is mildly alarming
compared with the rapacious thuggery of Chicago School economists and their political patrons so well described in Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine". Radical muslims want to force us into conversion to their faith. Free market capitalists want to convert us into whatever the market demands ... cheap labor pool minions, soldiers, consumers, fertilizer ...

Hard to say which is ultimately more frightening ...
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:00 PM
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21. Sure, the nutters are worrying
But here (Britain), we've had the IRA, the Kaiser, the Nazis, the Anarchists, the Papists* and the Marxist Revolutionaries. A few thousand lunatics is really not threatening by comparison.


* - "Papist" refers to two different sets of people. In the first, Catholics were the victims of a pogrom after Titus Oates and a few others drummed up a fictitious "Papist Plot" to assassinate teh king. In one of history's ironies, Oates and co have been known as "the Papist Plotters" ever since. The other was the band of Catholic fanatics which Guy (Guido) Fawkes was a part of and who genuinely did try to assassinate the king.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:09 PM
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16. I think I'm gonna have to drag out my old Orwell books
and re-read them.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:51 PM
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17. Why?
You're living them right now.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:42 PM
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19. Yeah, I'm really feeling that way.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:18 PM
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18. I'd rather lose a leg than read anything in National Review
you really have to love being lied to to read that shit.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:54 PM
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20. Ah, National Review...
...the magazine for conservatives who don't have the guts to buy real porn.

The thing that gets me about these guys is their description of MSNBC as a network for the "far-left". It's the same way Bill O'Lielly describes everyone he disagrees with as "far-left". Far to the left of whom? Attila the Hun perhaps? Vlad the Impaler? Given that both Bill'O and the National Review are only two steps away from outright fascism, I suppose everything looks far-left to them but to most of us, MSNBC is anything but.

Incidently, David Brock delivers a fairly good smackdown of National Review in his mea culpa, Blinded By The Right.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:40 PM
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22. This is just part of the Bushie "Bill Parcells Working the Ref Strategy"
Basically, the entire Cable "News" establishment literally EXPLODES with Bushie henchpersons and Bushie memes often wearily repeated by centrists journalists, bending over backwards to avoid the dread "liberal label".

Olbermann, who isn't as much of a liberal as he is a Bush Critic and a critic of the corrupt current shameless form of the Bushpublic Party. I mean, Keith is great, but has he ever done stories on why we need single-payer health insurance or the dying state of labor in this nation?

Not that I have ever heard of.

Maddow is the only actual liberal with a TV show and she just got hers. Maybe she'll get Donahue'd.

In either case, that's one left-center primarily a Bush critic and one actual liberal who just got er own show versus, basically...the rest of it.

But reality doesn't matter. The Bushies remind me of Nazi Party Officials scanning the day's newspapers to ensure they are all Nazi Party Line and grousing, "Look, here he said Der Fuhrer was a good man, but not great nor God sent. Liberal jew Media!"

Get it? That's all it is, nothing more. The very same strategy they have used again and again and again and again and it has worked again and again and again and again. Why shouldn't it work?

This is just the new flavor of intimidation. The nazis required that the playing field be ALL THEIRS. In Amerika, it is more subtle, thus a token critic like Olbermann shall be left on the air and even perhaps a token actual liberal like Maddow for awhile, but it must go no further.

Thus, this new aspect of the Bushie Summer Propaganda Offensive, aimed not only at the gullible, Prozac and TV addled Amerikan Subject populace, but even more so at the media to Gleichschaltung, stay in line the Nazis called it, thus no more than two "Liberal Jew commentators" can be allowed at once.

This is all so fascinating to watch unfold. Think about it. If any other nation at any other time in histrory had been reduced to abject surrender by tyrants as Amerika has to the Bushies, people like us would be dying in droves or imprisoned in droves, or both.

Only here and now, in this hothouse flower that is Inverted Totalitarianism, can we painless experience what it was like to live in Nazi Germany without being afraid of being beaten or killed.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:23 PM
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23. "...without being afraid of being beaten or killed"
Unfortunately I believe there are quite a few whistle-blowers, witnesses, investigative journalists and protestors who actually HAVE experienced those things. The list of those suspicisouly "suicided" is quite long within this administration's time not to mention the highest-ever number of journalists killed covering a war.

As for the rest of us - there are newly built prisons supposedly for immigration enforcement awaiting the riots and protestations that will arise should Obama experience an untimely death (by some long crazy redneck no doubt :sarcasm: )or a truly exposed fake terror event. Bush did not create Martial Law legislation and coerce his cronies into passing it for nothing I suspect.

I just can not shake the feeling that this isn't over, by any means.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:14 PM
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26. tom_paine, are you paying attention?
"Keith is great, but has he ever done stories on why we need single-payer health insurance or the dying state of labor in this nation?"

Uh, yeah, he's addressed those subjects. And he was the moderator of the AFL-CIO candidates' forum, in which he got to choose part of the questions.

I guess you weren't watching then.

Don't buy the Kool-Aid that KO is "just a Bush critic." He's much, much more.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:16 AM
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27. OK. I am wrong about that, and I apologize.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 07:16 AM by tom_paine
I am paying less attention than ever (whioch is STILL more atttention paid than 98% of the Amerikan Subject Populace), these days, so it's obvious I missed that show.

Good points all. I have heard you.

Thanks.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:12 PM
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24. MSNBC just moved Olbermann off of the election coverage.
Yeah, sounds to me like he's giving orders to MSNBC. :eyes:
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:41 PM
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25. You don't understand Olbermann told MSNBC to take him off of the air
So he is still giving MSNBC orders! :sarcasm:
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