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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:00 PM
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Once pro-Obama, but now swoon for McPalin? Who the hell are you? (Mark Morford)
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Friday, September 19, 2008

... A potent backlash is coming fast. Actually, it began almost immediately, just after the Republican National Convention, when the GOP cheerfully announced they'd raised a whopping one million bucks in the 24 hours following Palin's speech, so inspired was the heavily drugged conservative base by her teleprompter-reading skills ...

But then Obama's campaign issued a statement of their own. Turns out they'd raised a bit money in the exact same time frame, a rather impressive outpouring of cash from all those on the left who could be heard screaming "oh my God no way in hell" to their TV screens as Palin's finger jabbed at the heart of all that's right and good with the world. The amount Obama raised in the same 24 hours? $10 million. Well now.

How much of that staggering amount came from the newly galvanized, infuriated female populace from the left who see right through Palin's shrill charade and damn well recognize an imposter in their midst, it's impossible to tell. But I think it's a damn safe bet to assume, they are legion.

And let me tell you, they are pissed.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/09/19/notes091908.DTL
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:04 PM
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1. Wish he hadn't called Palin "shrill," but a good number of folks in each party..
vote with little regard for issues.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:08 PM
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2. I work at a law firm with many female attorneys and today a group of us ladies were talkin'.....
.... the topic? How the HELL Sarah Palin could've broken water (which means she went into labor according to every doctor I've consulted), and after that:

1) Gave a speech;
2) Boarded flights to take her to Alaska (total of 8 hours);
3) Got on vehicles to go to a hospital NOT in the capital, but far away from the capital.

Most said she's a liar and the baby is not hers, but her daughter's.

A couple of them said that since she knew the baby was a Down's Syndrome baby and, having announced to her church that she was "Pro-Life" and could not abort it another way, she decided to try to kill it by not going to a hospital after her water broke and not delivering the child when it was due, the child would become infected and die inside her.

Everyone thinks she's twisted.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:23 PM
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3. Every woman I know has a BIG problem with Palin's version of events.
Most are convinced Palin was trying to kill the baby. Me, I think it was insurance fraud to get the grandchild passed off as an eligible dependent.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:29 PM
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4. I think it's just a lie.....
Palin seems to feel the need to dramatize everything she does. It's because she knows she's a fraud, and has some serious self-esteem issues IMO.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:31 PM
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6. That's the best description of Palin, a FRAUD. nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:30 PM
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5. Women are talking about it non-stop. No mother I know says it's possible to do that...
You break water, and you make your way to the NEAREST hospital. There are no options to that. End of story. What Palin allegedly did has women talking everywhere. No mother accepts that story as true or logical. I don't know one woman that thinks she's trustworthy. Even one of my bosses who is REPUBLICAN, calls her, "the little shithead." She wishes McCain had picked Romney.

I don't. :)
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:46 PM
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18. Add to that the fact that Bristol missed several months of school
with no actual explanation other than that she was sick. And Pallin didn't even tell her own family, friends or close aides until the 7th month??
I've never known anyone who didn't carry larger with each succeeding pregnancy, and yet here she was not showing at all on her 5th pregnancy even though she was quite large during her 4th pregnancy.
Something doesn't add up.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:11 PM
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7. the whole story stinks
what DOCTOR would allow a patient who is giving birth to a special needs baby to travel that sort of distance AT ALL and then return on that plane flight? I remember my doctor telling me not to travel at 8 mos with my first kid and there were no known issues. My father had a (minor) heart attack when I was 8 mos. pregnant and my doctor told me not to travel the distance to his place. I don't assume my doctor was overly solicitous, but maybe in Alaska they just spit the babies out like softball batting machines.

I'd like to talk to her doctor, really.

Does anyone know a doctor who would have been okay with this?

Her water broke - she therefore was at risk for infection. What doctor would not INSIST that his patient go to a hospital? Esp. if that patient were a prominent person. Do people know how terrified doctors are, esp. ob/gyns, of malpractice suits and all that?

Did she has a c-section or a vaginal birth? After having 4 kids, if she had a vaginal delivery, she would more likely have shorter labor. Obviously this isn't always true, but at her age with four kids, if she had a vaginal delivery I don't know of any doc that would go for this travel bit because the baby might not take very long to deliver and the doc would want to make certain she was in a good place in case... and the baby didn't weigh all that much, so considering the factors mentioned above... just saying...

I have not really said much of anything about this whole story, but it really seems odd to me, esp. considering all the information about her daughter. I hope the sleazoid press finds out if this is some 1950s style cover up.


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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:09 PM
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10. Well, I'm an obstetrician
and the whole story sounds bogus to me. I have been in practice for 15 years, and advise my patients not to travel in the last 8 weeks of their pregnancies, especially women who have had several babies (multiparas). Typically, each successive labor is faster than the previous one (there are obviously exceptions). I advise my patients to go to the hospital IMMEDIATELY if their water breaks; for her to have preterm rupture of membranes and to travel further than the NEAREST hospital is incredibly stupid and irresponsible, showing complete disregard for the health of her preterm baby. Then to get to Juneau and to insist upon going to
Wasilla, which does NOT have a Level III neonatal ICU (what would most likely be required to care for a Down syndrome 32-weeker) is sheer insanity.
There is something rotten in the state of Alaska, and I think we all know what it is....
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:43 PM
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14. Those last few babies can come awfully fast.
When my old boss' wife was pregnant with their fifth child, they were afraid she'd get stuck in afternoon traffic and end up delivering in the car. Every delivery had been quicker than the last, and the fourth was a very close call.

When she got close enough to her due date that she could be safely induced, they went ahead and did it to prevent any side-of-the-interstate deliveries.
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jrockford Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:39 PM
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8. I've heard the not her hers idea...
which I believe, but I haven't heard the "tried to kill" - though it wouldn't surprise me at all. Not one bit.

What frightens me is at my firm, there are a couple Catholic associates who support the ticket BECAUSE of her. I try explaining her anti-Catholic bias and that they'll be coming for us next - but they dismiss it and say "she doesn't have to believe everything in her church."

Yeah...
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:46 PM
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9. I sincerely believe that religous people tend not to use their brain nt
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:02 AM
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15. I completely agree, but just a quick FYI......the capital, Juneau is about the same size
as Wasilla. she flew into Anchorage with a hospital that has a level 3 NICU and still chose to drive the 45+ minutes to the Mat valley hospital.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:06 PM
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16. Thanks, but you know, after over 8 hours of travel (and that after a speech!)....
... in the midst of child labor, I'm afraid I'm still just rather left speechless.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:38 PM
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17. Oh, I completely agree. just want to keep the facts straight. n/t
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:14 PM
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11. Here's another thing you need to consider with the whole flying to Alaska to deliver.
Her water supposedly broke in Texas, and she flew 8 hours to Alaska and delivered it there.

Uh huh. Ok.

Was it a private jet? I sure know it wasn't a commercial flight.

No commercial airline will allow a pregnant woman, who is in labor, to fly at 30,000 feet for several hours across several states.

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sweetroxie Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:22 PM
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12. It was Air Alaska
and stewardesses interviewed said she didn't appear pregnant
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:40 PM
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13. Exactly.
You're looking at either having to deliver the baby while the plane's in the air or making an emergency landing somewhere.

She didn't look pregnant 'cause she was faking it, IMO.

I am convinced the Enquirer is finally gonna blow the lid off this thing, particularly if they can ever get to that doctor and pay her enough money to talk.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:01 PM
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19. Morford's The Best. (n/t)
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