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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:27 AM
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H-1B foes try to prove student-visa extension hurts U.S. tech workers
Lawsuit against DHS hinges on convincing judge that plaintiffs have legal standing in case


September 23, 2008 (Computerworld) A federal lawsuit pitting H-1B opponents against the Bush administration is hinging on one question: Do tech workers have a right to challenge the federal government in court over its visa policies?

Critics of the H-1B program have long argued that it has created unfair competition for jobs, depressed wages, fostered discrimination and provided a lubricant for offshore outsourcing. Proving that in court is the focus of a lawsuit filed in May by the Programmers Guild, the Immigration Reform Law Institute and other groups over the Bush administration's extension of the time that foreign nationals who graduate from U.S. colleges with science or technology degrees can work on their student visas from one year to 29 months.

The lawsuit claims that the extension will exacerbate the harm caused by the H-1B program, and that the administration exceeded its legal authority by stretching the student-visa rules. But U.S. District Judge Faith Hochberg, who is hearing the case in New Jersey, is pushing back. In August, she rejected a request for a temporary injunction against the extension, citing arguments raised by the U.S. government that question whether the plaintiffs had legal standing to file the lawsuit in the first place.

Both sides recently filed court papers on that issue, in advance of an expected ruling by Hochberg later this year. The arguments over legal standing can be boiled down to the question of whether tech workers have been injured by the Bush administration's decision to extend the length of time that foreign graduates can stay in the U.S. without obtaining work visas.

The government contended in its latest filing that the injuries cited by the plaintiffs are "speculative" in nature. But in their legal brief, the plaintiffs said that prior case law is clear in showing that "economic competition is an injury-in-fact." They added that the student-visa extension "specifically targets the fields in which plaintiffs work." As a result, they claimed, "the injury is not speculative — it is intended."

More: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=knowledge_center&articleId=9115383&taxonomyId=1&intsrc=kc_top


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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:30 AM
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1. That's the government for you. Trying to fuck working people any way they can and lower wages
through any means.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:34 AM
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2. There is nothing at all speculative about the fact that I make less now
than I did a couple years ago. The tech job market has been flooded with H1-B visa folks who work for peanuts, which has brought what I can charge in the marketplace down considerably. That is crap, IMO.
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:39 AM
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3. Point of information
Obama has favored the H-1B program including this statement from a questionnaire sent to The Sanctuary by the Obama campaign and which was released this week (McCain, surprise surprise, failed to respond).

http://www.promigrant.org/showDiary.do?diaryId=422

"10. Would you favor raising the 65,000 cap on high-skilled H-1B temporary work visas, in light of the fact that in the last two years, H-1B visas were quickly filled in a matter of days?

As part of comprehensive reform, I will consider multiple proposals for increasing access to the world’s best and brightest to work in America."

*****

And from another questionnaire (http://pradeepc.net/blog/?p=193), Obama says this:

MA: What is your position on H1B visas in general? Do you believe the number of H1B visas should be increased?

BO: Highly skilled immigrants have contributed significantly to our domestic technology industry. But we have a skills shortage, not a worker shortage. There are plenty of Americans who could be filling tech jobs given the proper training. I am committed to investing in communities and people who have not had an opportunity to work and participate in the Internet economy as anything other than consumers. Most H-1B new arrivals, for example, have earned a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent abroad (42.5%). They are not all PhDs. We can and should produce more Americans with bachelor’s degrees that lead to jobs in technology. A report of the National Science Foundation (NSF) reveals that blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans as a whole comprise more that 25% of the population but earn, as a whole, 16% of the bachelor degrees, 11% of the master’s degrees, and 5% of the doctorate degrees in science and engineering. We can do better than that and go a long way toward meeting industry’s need for skilled workers with Americans. Until we have achieved that, I will support a temporary increase in the H-1B visa program as a stopgap measure until we can reform our immigration system comprehensively. I support comprehensive immigration reform that includes improvement in our visa programs, including our legal permanent resident visa programs and temporary programs including the H-1B program, to attract some of the world’s most talented people to America. We should allow immigrants who earn their degrees in the U.S. to stay, work, and become Americans over time. As part of our comprehensive reform, we should examine our ability to replace a stopgap increase in the number of H1B visas with an increase in the number of permanent visas we issue to foreign skilled workers. I will also work to ensure immigrant workers are less dependent on their employers for their right to stay in the country and would hold accountable employers who abuse the system and their workers.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:43 AM
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4. H1B not a temporary program
Temporary was the description given to the program in the mid-90s when Clinton signed on .
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:51 AM
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5. Thanks for the Post OhioCHick!
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 08:51 AM by Phred42
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:33 PM
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6. K & MR
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