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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:13 PM
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No “Actual Ideas,” No “Real Solutions” for the GOP
The GOP is bankrupt for ideas and solutions, at least according to Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty, two of the only rising stars in the GOP firmament. They don’t understand that there’s plenty of ideas on the GOP side, but the voters rejected them. Changing ideas isn’t going to be easy, not with the coalitions they’ve got to work with.

http://allspinzone.com/wp/2008/11/06/no-actual-ideas-no-real-solutions-for-the-gop/
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:18 PM
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1. Go piyush take sarah as your running mate and run in 2012
I agree that the gop is bankrupt of ideas, just like you are piyush. My God you had to change your name to bobby so conservative white people would vote for you?? Actually a brilliant idea, but the american stage is not full of bu-dros and tee-ba-dos! please piyush start running for president NOW.
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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 01:05 AM
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10. I'm fine with Bobby
I will not use his origianl name just as I have problems with people using Barack's Barry or Hussein.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:20 PM
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2. They have lots of ideas:
-No rights for gay people
-Teach creationism in schools
-Eliminate all science activities
-Remove all regulations that protect the environment
-Display intolerance for all except white fundamentalists
........
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:36 AM
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11. That's the platform, AlinPA.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 05:37 AM by Enthusiast
You forgot - do away with Social Security and Medicare.
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:25 PM
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3. The Party is in Tatters
It will be interesting to see how they are going to emerge from the tug of war between the traditional moderate Republicans, the Neo-Cons and the Fundie bunch. They don't appear to have a de facto leader amongst the sorry lot and they have nothing to sell to the American public. Talk about an impoverished bunch.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:32 PM
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4. Newtie is running for leader
and thinks he can hold the Reagan coalition together for a few more years.

I think the CNP realize it's now or never for them, that the old guard like Moon, Dobson and LaHaye are getting ready to kick the bucket and that there are not only few younger leaders but that the young are moving away from their brand of Dominionist Christianity.

The moderates also realize it's now or never, that giving in to the CNP will marginalize the party completely.

In any case, the next few years will be interesting ones to watch. We Democrats played our party struggle out in the primaries. Their party failed to do that and is now faced with a postponed crisis.

Let's hope they do most of it publicly.
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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:42 PM
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7. What moderate Republicans?
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:02 PM
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8. Olympia Snow and the so called progressives conservatives
Senior Senator from Maine. From her record:

"Snowe voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq in Oct. 2002.
On February 17, 2007, Snowe was one of seven Republicans to cross party lines and vote in favor of closure on a non-binding resolution opposing the troop "surge".

The Global Warming Reduction Act of 2007 (S.485) was introduced on February 1, 2007 by Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) to "to amend the Clean Air Act to establish an economy-wide global warming pollution emission cap-and-trade program to assist the economy in transitioning to new clean energy technologies, to protect employees and affected communities, to protect companies and consumers from significant increases in energy costs, and for other purposes.


On May 23, 2005, Snowe was one of fourteen moderate senators, known as the Gang of 14, to forge a compromise on the Democrats' use of the filibuster on judicial nominees. This action both curtailed the Republican leadership's attempt to implement the so-called "nuclear option", and broke Democrat opposition to three nominees brought to the Senate floor. The compromise precludes further filibusters and the implementation of the nuclear option for as long as the Gang of 14 holds together.

http://moderaterepublican.net/
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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:36 PM
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5. No de facto leader
No leader at all that I can see. Mitch McCaonnell? Boner? No, neither of them has the stomach for this. It may be that Jindal and PAwlenty lead the way, but only if they abandon any serious Christian conservative platform.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:39 PM
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6. They have ideas, but they are bad ideas
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 04:44 PM by Juche
The RW is so insular and radical that they could care less that the public rejects their ideas. The response isn't to change their ideas, just repackage them and resell them.

Tax cuts for the wealthy (supply side economics)
Breaking the entitlement system
Ignoring the environment
Ignoring the middle class
Divisiveness and hostility towards all non-WASPs
Privatize everything/anything



The public don't want these ideas. Some guy in Ohio who considers himself lucky to get a job that pays $9/hr with no benefits could care less about supply side economics, esp if it comes at the tail end of 8 years of it with no real benefits to the middle class. Telling him about breaking the entitlement system to fund those supply side tax cuts when he struggles to buy food isn't a winner either.


They can't figure out that an administration and RW media full of chickenhawks lying the country into an unnecessary war, instituting torture, fraudulent elections, ignoring the middle class, ignoring the environment, ignoring the world community, destroying our reputation, bogging down the military, hostility towards dissent, religious extremism, mass manipulation, turning the US into a latin american country (economically) rather than a middle class country economically, politicizing every decision about everything including justice, economics or foreign policy, ignoring the dozens of serious problems our country faces, etc. are not winning policies. That is what they have stood for. And they won't change. They will either repackage these ideas, or go further to the right with them.
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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 05:19 PM
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9. The ideas
Don't fit today's world, nor today's America.
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