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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 09:56 AM
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Why is Rumsfeld not fired or in jail?
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 10:31 AM by donhakman
Prior to 9-11 Donald Rumsfeld gave an order that no military action to counter an invasion of the US could proceed without his personal approval.
No scrambling of jets etc.

On 9-11 Rumsfeld proceeded to do nothing and mobilize no counter offensive.
The possible action taken against the PA hijacked plane is unclear but they claim there was none.
If even one voice recorder on any of those planes had worked we would certainly know more.

Here is part of the order that Rumsfeld made that made all prior defense responses impossible without his say. This order that over rides 20 years of preparedness allowed inaction for hours until Rumsfeld felt like doing something.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/d302515_021897/d302515p.pdf


more:

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/docs/intercept_proc.pdf


Why would he weaken the defense of the nation in such a way?

Why did he then decide to take little or no reaction claiming " we could not imagine such a thing was happening" ?

Rumsfeld's testimony has already been given with little or no media fanfare or reaction of any kind. I may have missed it but I do not recall the 9-11 commission mentioning of these orders by Rumsfeld that tied the hands of a military response to invasion without his personal say.

Will the current 9-11 commission go back and touch upon these special orders of Rumsfeld with any criticism at all. So far it is shaping up as a Warren report. Of course Bush did not give the commission subpoena power to force testimony but leaving out such an important restructuring of the entire military response strategy by one man Donald Rumsfeld who then did not give the order to defend ourselves for 2 hours seems to me a glaring mistake.

I know that corporate owned media will simply say conspiracy theory whenever someone gets dangerously close to the truth. To hear NBC tell it, this country has never had a political assasination. Everything is always a lone crazed gunman or tragic accident.

My skepticism regarding the 9-11 commission is of course premature since they have a long way to go. I do worry that like the Warren Commission they will publish a 10,000 page unreadable document that will also point to an improbable conclusion. Will it simply be another cover up?

The public conclusions they have given thus far is only to say that equal blame is to be laid at the feet of William Jefferson Clinton.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 09:57 AM
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1. He knows too much
More than Bush, I'm sure.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 10:41 AM
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2. Ask one question
It's hard to believe no one has had the temerity to ask anyone in this administration why no interceptors were scrambled to take out the hijacked jets.

The government may reply by saying we won't fire on our civilians, even in the face of a terrorist attack, but Payne Stewart's plane had F-16's on it in 20 minutes. How do you lose a airliner? For two hours?

If you want Dumbass, Cheney, and Rumsfeld out of office, get them to answer this question.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:13 AM
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3. It's perfectly obvious why that question is not asked.
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 11:15 AM by bemildred
It leads into areas that expose the corruption of the existing
political order in this country, and neither party has the
slightest interest in getting into that.

Edit: It is the same reason that Mr. Gore did not dispute the
theft of the Presidency, it would have caused a "constitutional
crisis", and that could have opened the whole corrupt can of
worms for examination.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:02 PM
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4. I think it is pretty clear
that we are in a larger constitutional crisis now, then
if Gore had fought it out then. That fight would have been painful and ugly. But a lot of evil would have been undone.

Now I fear for what we are going to go through.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:23 PM
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5. I can't say I disagree with anything you say.
The future does seem rather murky; certainly the nation
has been greatly damaged in the subsequent years.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:27 PM
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6. 9-11 the fix is in editorial
was very revealing.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:33 PM
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7. Rumsfeld at 9-11 commission said
"We simply could not imagine such a thing as using airliners as bombs could ever happen".


Look he even lied about that...

from a 2000 military website now scrubbed.

http://www.911review.org/Wiki/PentagonMascal.shtml
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:07 AM
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10. Hi rkc3!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DEM FAN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:30 PM
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8. The Whole Bush Team Should Be In Jail.
Locked Up And Throw Away The Key.:-(
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:13 PM
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9. the whole system is corrupted.
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