C Street linked to yet ANOTHER secretive group (Raw Story)

[MzNov]

Very disturbing stuff.



" . . .

According to the Washington Post, however, the Fellowship Foundation is itself linked to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a Mission (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the “C Street House” where Ensign has lived and where Sanford has participated in Bible study.

A diarist at Daily Kos points out that “YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for Christian world-control,” which involves establishing domination over government, education, business, the media, and other areas.

The last time YWAM came to notice was in 2006, when Loren Cunningham’s son, David Cunningham, gained attention as the director of ABC’s bitterly anti-Clinton “docudrama,” The Path to 9/11. According to Talking Points Memo, the younger Cunningham’s ties to YWAM were discovered by Digby and discussed at length on both Daily Kos and Democratic Underground.

Cunningham was found to be particularly involved in a YWAM offshoot known as The Film Institute, whose goal is to place its graduates “within the film industry, not to give them jobs, but so that they can begin to impact and transform Hollywood from the inside out.”

Dave Neiwert, a dedicated student of extremist groups, brought together a variety of items relating to YWAM’s aims for worldly domination, commenting that what he found especially interesting was “the way these supposedly forthright Christians are now busy covering the tracks connecting them to The Path to 9/11. All this snooping is obviously making them nervous.”

YWAM has also been accused of having cult-like tendencies, which were detailed at length in an article published in 1990 that described both the brainwashing-like techniques employed in its Discipleship Training Schools and its financial exploitation of its recruits.

. . . "


http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/11/c-street-group-tied-to-ensign-is-linked-to-yet-another-secretive-group/

[aquart]

1. Forgetting completely "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's."

But I suspect the words of Christ are unrelated to this "Christians."

[MzNov]

2. time to rid D.C. of all the Caesars

I don't know much about Jesus, but I'm sure he would appreciate bloggers :-)

[aquart]

3. Rid DC of the Caesars and leave the Christians in charge?

Because, in this context, that's what you're saying.

[MzNov]

10. Thanks for telling me what I'm saying. nt

[merwin]

18. I would think that in this case the post was referring to a subset of people in DC,

not everyone in charge.

This line from Wikipedia's article on Caesar describes what I think the poster is referring to...
"Caesar was still deeply in debt, and there was money to be made as a provincial governor, whether by extortion or by military adventurism."

So about 98% of Republicans and about 60% of the Democrats in DC...

[merwin]

4. Some Christians believe that Jesus meant something different... since everything belongs to God,

nothing belongs to Caesar... therefore, screw him and the horse he rode in on :)

Very ambiguous statement by Jesus, purposely stated to mean one thing to his followers and another to those in power... However, it can be interpreted a number of different ways, like many of the things he said.

Although, I would be willing to bet that at least 90% of Christians either take what Jesus said literally or blindly follow what their pastors tell them, instead of contemplating it in context and coming to their own conclusion.

As a Christian, it saddens me to listen to some of the idiots that just don't get what Jesus was trying to teach, and instead pick and choose a few key passages to base their intolerance around (often from the Old Testament, but almost as often from a twisting of what Jesus' teachings).

[MzNov]

11. This group - C Street et al.

From what I am gathering from these articles, this gang of "Christians" has twisted the teachings of their Jesus to mean that they are the Caesars and they deserve to have it all. The country, the world. all the power and all the money. I don't think that's what Jesus meant.

[merwin]

13. Somehow, I think you're right.

The whole part about giving up your earthly belongings and following him really just didn't sink in :)

Can't really blame them, though... Philosophical question for the day:
Since most money only exists in computers (nothing backing it), do they really have any earthly belongings when they have millions of dollars in the bank?

[MzNov]

14. It's so difficult to figure out what motivates people

like the C Street Gang, the right wing evangelicals, etc. No matter how much they have it's not enough. There is something deeply lacking in their lives I guess. :shrug: They appear to have money and material objects galore, but lack that empathy and compassion for others. Mix all this with "religion" and you get the massive hypocrisy. If religion is really fear of the unknown, they don't seem to have that either. The fear has been replaced by hate.

It's interesting as hell isn't it?

:hi:

[merwin]

16. The truly sad part is that most of these people will reach a point in their life,

probably around the time they are staring death in the face, where they realize what they've done. Unfortunately, it's a bit too late at that point to undo most of the damage.

[aejlaw]

27. if you really believe in Jesus you probably

should not refer to yourself as a "Christian". After the atrocities these people have done in the name of "Christianity" the word "Christian" is like taking the Lord's name in vain. I am no longer a "Christian" but if I were I would call myself something different. I wouldn't put myself in the same category as these people.

[merwin]

28. So I should change what I call myself because some idiots are trying to

pervert the religion?

Great idea...

[nilram]

5. YWAM, wanting one world government? how ironic...

So does "the beast" from Revelation.

[peacetalksforall]

6. brainwashing ... financial exploitation ... loss of respect for other people ... superiority ...

Perfect description of Rev Moon and followers.

Since we know who the followers are, who is the Rev Moon of congressional followers?

EXPOSE THEM. EXPOSE THEIR AGENDA FOR US. LET THEM PLOT AND PAY FOR THEIR BELIEFS WITH THE SPOTLIGHT ON THEM AND THE MIRRORS REFLECTING BACK ON THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY CONNIVE AND PLAN AGAINST US, ESPECIALLY EVERYTHING THAT LEADS US TO BE UNDER THEIR CONTROL. LET THEM TRY TO DO THEIR THING WHICH OBSESSES THEM, BUT WITH OUR EAGLE EYE ON THEIR EVERY STEP AND STOP SIGN AT EVERY FIGHT OF THEIRS AGAINST US IF IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ILLEGAL, AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEOPLE AND DOMINATING. LET US VOTE ALL OF THEM OUT OF OFFICE AND ALLOW NO TAXPAYER FUNDING OF ANY OF THEIR ACTIVITIES AND DEBTS IN THE MEANTIME.

THe people of the British Isles didn't flee religious and royalty domination to come and steal the land of the natives to have it taken over for religious imposition and reverend domination.

This is particularly targeted at Democratic Congressional leaders who are members or facilitators of this movement.

[formercia]

8. Moon funding

When Moon first came to the US in the '60's, he was taken to the 'Family' facilities to show him what his money had accomplished.

[Tansy_Gold]

15. "...to have it taken over for religious imposition and reverend domination."

No, they intended to do their own imposing and dominating.

Most of their calvinistic ideology has trickled down to infect our current institutions, especially the sanctity of personal wealth as a sign of god's grace. The protection of wealth is always more important than the protection of life or liberty.




Tansy Gold

[merwin]

17. I think Matthew 21:12 is fairly relevant today...

"Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves."

If only...

[Tansy_Gold]

19. He only drove them out of the temple

He didn't drive them out of existence.


If your point is that temple and cash box should be separated, then that's true enough, as far as it goes. But Jesus' messages were so conveniently contradictory, and the compilation of those messages so further conveniently left to the hands of men who had vested interests therein that it's virtually impossible for me to take anything purported to be Jesus' words with anything less than a bushel of halite.


TG

[merwin]

23. That one seems pretty clear to me...

unless you take the literal translation. He was making a statement about the corruption of the church (and its leaders), using it as a tool for profit and personal gain.

I guess you could take it literally and see him specifically talking about separation of money changers and churches... but that would be as ignorant as saying that Rosa Park refused to sit in the back of the bus because she just had a beef with the racial discrimination on buses.

Not sure how what Jesus said here that contradicts anything else he said. Please enlighten me.

[MinM]

7. YWAM: behind ABC's slick propaganda piece, "The Path to 9/11"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Loren_Cunningham
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,764885,00.jpg

Son of YWAM founder, filmmaker David Loren Cunningham, was allowed to film at CIA headquarters in Langley for his feature ABC series, “The Path to 9/11,” basically a slick propaganda piece starring Harvey Keitel, Patricia Heaton, and Donnie Whalberg, and based on the official whitewash commission fairy tale. “Is Bush and the CIA behind the controversial ABC News documentary ‘The Path to 9/11,’ which blames Clinton for the 9/11 attack? It looks like it might be,” writes Marc Perkel Rantz...

[glitch]

9. Very important reminder. nt

[Grinchie]

12. Here is another group that needs to be watched closely

http://www.teenchallengetc.com

I had a run in with these "Christians" when they decided to trespass on my land and cut down an orchard of trees. The so called pastor lied outright to my face, all the while grinning ear to ear.

The "Troubled Youth" were then conscripted to throw trash on my property, and generally be as obnoxious as possible.

One thing that I noticed was that they had all brand new Big Screen TV's, and they had learned how to use charitable organizations via the web, despite the fact they were creating an unpermitted Drug Rehabilitation facility without a permit. They performed construction withut permits, and devastated acres of established fruit trees.

For christians, they took a garden with over 400 varieties of tropical plants and fruit trees, and turned it into a lawn.

[bertman]

20. What did you do about them destroying your property, Grinichie? That's breaking the law

in most places. Just curious.

These folks sound like garden-variety evangelical assholes.

[Grinchie]

22. I complained about the lack of permits and the encroachment

But for the most part it was just a slap on the hand for them. They are still a bunch of evangelical idiots, very comfortable with lying, and totally hostile to any outsider of infidel they perceive as a threat.

Beleive me, they are sweet as syrup, and say all the right things, and do all the right things to squeeze money out of the community. There is no science present at all. It's all about the pastor leading ex hopless helpless junkies around and getting them to perform labor. Unfortunately, it's the blind leading the blind. In the past, Monastery's were the repositories of knowledge, not we get ex drug addict that are brainwashed or coerced into a work exchange program for a greedy franchisee of the Teen Challenge franchise. Their web site is chock full of how to manuals on how to do this and for a few 100 bucks you can do it too! Pretty creepy stuff, and the revelation about "The Family" were pretty much in line with what I experienced first hand with this group.


I have to admit, I wish I was able to exploit people like that and have them obey my every command, but its so creepy, I could never do it with a clear conciense. They suck the self worth out of the supplicants, and then ration it back into them by getting them to do hard labor for the benefit of the pastor.

Thats about all I can say, as I do plan future litigation, and I could be talking to one right now, or others may view this and take notice.
This group has settled EVERYWHERE in all 50 states.

[PSzymeczek]

25. They should have been charged with criminal trespass

and malicious destruction of private property.

[Mopar151]

29. And

Look into laws on theft of timber. They are apt to be old statutes, from frontier times but they can have some serious teeth!

[bertman]

26. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, but it sounds like you have it under control.

The scary thing about this is that they are likely to be treated with kid gloves by the authorities since they are viewed as good christians trying to help people out.

[bertman]

21. Discipleship Training Schools. SHUDDER!!!

Code for indoctrination camps.

Recommend this thread.

[KoKo]

24. Worth a read...thanks! n/t