ihavenobias
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:06 PM
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What Would Happen If Goldman Went Under? (Cenk @ Huffington Post) UPDATED W/ AOL Poll |
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Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 12:46 PM by ihavenobias
UPDATE: There is an |AOL Poll] on the subject. Notice the first comment was left by an obnoxious conservative.
By Cenk Uygur
So, we read now that is back to making record profits ($2.7 billion in the last quarter alone) by taking higher risks ( that Goldman has returned to "high-risk trading"). Great, the economy must be fixed. Or maybe it's the exact opposite -- it's a company taking advantage of a system they know is broken.
Here is what I mean. Goldman Sachs knows that they are too big too fail. And they already know what the government does when a financial company is too big to fail. They bail them out -- no matter what.
What if Goldman took too many risks in making the absurd amount of money they're making now (while we're told that the banks don't have any money to lend)? What if they crashed right now? What do you think would happen?
Everyone in the world knows that we would bail them out. The idea that Tim Geithner would let Goldman go under is so laughable that it makes me sick. Does anyone trust that guy's impartiality (other than Obama)? Does anyone believe there is even a 1% chance that Geithner and Summers would let Goldman go down?
So, if you knew that no matter what level risk you took the government would always come riding to the rescue -- and that more risk equals more money in the short term -- wouldn't you take more risk? Of course you would.
Now, that might be short term thinking and you might get yourself into a lot of trouble in the long term. Well, if you were worried about what might happen in the long term, what would you do next? Right, take out as much money from the company as you possibly could and put it into your own pocket. And guess what Goldman is doing right now? They are setting aside this year.
That's called looting the store. They're taking most of the money the company made and . Who cares about the long term health of the company? The employees . If they can take most of the money for themselves before it gets to the shareholders and do long term damage to the company, why not do it? What do they have to lose? It's not their company, but the check they take home is .
wrote an excellent book called "Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One." That about . But these days the bank robbers have one additional advantage -- when the bank runs out of money, the government comes and fills it up again. Then, they invite them to rob it one more time.
So, who's convinced we have this financial problem under control? Who's convinced we have any idea what to do if Goldman went under? Who's convinced they have any incentive not to take more risk to make more money? Who's convinced that we have done enough to rein in banks that are too big to fail?...
to read the rest and to become a fan of Cenk at Huffington Post.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:12 PM
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1. How would we know? Don't they control all the numbers? |
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Don't they have 81 trillion in derivatives on their books now? It may as well be a gazillion trillion in derivatives. The numbers are already absurd.
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Thu Jul-16-09 03:23 PM
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10. Goldman Sachs: WE OWN THE WORLD... |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:14 PM
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2. A Lot Less Crime, for One Thing |
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a lot fewer lives ruined.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:30 PM
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3. I just get this horribly sick feeling when I read stuff like this .. |
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... that there's no way, short of a major crash or natural disaster wiping out technology and most of the banking industry, that things are ever going to get back anywhere close to fair, ethical or transparent.
They're the crooks of the crooks, at this point. :(
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ihavenobias
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:47 PM
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4. I updated the post with a new AOL poll on the topic. |
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www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/16/hot-seat-too-big-to-fail/1#c20176387
Notice the idiotic first comment.
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:46 PM
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7. LMAO and his/her screen name is "I have no bias" ?? |
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:eyes: Riiiiiiight.
Nice, if creative, definition of Fascism, too. ;-)
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:59 PM
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8. No, his/her screeen name is bhewatt |
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He was saying the government owns the corporations when arguably the opposite is true thanks to lobbyists and the dire need for campaign finance rform.
:)
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Thu Jul-16-09 03:23 PM
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9. Wait, did I read the wrong one? |
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I've never been to that site before ... oops ... :blush:
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Thu Jul-16-09 10:01 PM
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Their screen name is "bhewatt." ihavenobias is a familiar poster here, and evidently there as well.
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Fri Jul-17-09 07:08 AM
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18. Yor're right. That first comment boggles the mind. n/t |
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Fri Jul-17-09 10:54 AM
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20. Now the last few are just as bad. AOL is populated by right wingers, FYI. n/t |
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:45 PM
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6. Indeed they are the crooks of the crooks |
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And not only that, they hold the strings to the Puppet Administration.
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Thu Jul-16-09 03:46 PM
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11. Why am I reminded of Fight Club? |
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Thu Jul-16-09 05:34 PM
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13. Wall St. is single-handedly inciting a revolution. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 05:32 PM
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12. If Goldman Sachs went under, we should hold their head under until they stop struggling and there |
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Thank you for the mental picture before bedtime... :-)
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21. Excellent!..........nt |
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