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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:25 PM
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Joe Biden: ‘We Have to Go Spend Money to Keep From Going Bankrupt’
more: http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51162


CNSNews.com
Joe Biden: ‘We Have to Go Spend Money to Keep From Going Bankrupt’
Thursday, July 16, 2009
By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer


Vice President Joe Biden (Photo by Penny Starr/CNSNews.com) (CNSNews.com) – Vice President Joe Biden told people attending an AARP town hall meeting that unless the Democrat-supported health care plan becomes law the nation will go bankrupt and that the only way to avoid that fate is for the government to spend more money.

“And folks look, AARP knows and the people with me here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it now. It can’t do it financially.”

“We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:31 PM
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1. CNS News?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:34 PM
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5. fighting the liberal bias...
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/static.aspx?PageID=18

"The Cybercast News Service was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that’s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission."
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:35 PM
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6. exactly. Gotta fight that good old liberal bias. Jesus Christ.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:36 PM
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7. I wonder if I do a study that says I'm underpaid if my boss will give me a raise on my word. nt
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:56 PM
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9. liberal "bias by omission" ... yeah ...
like Larry Craig being reported as having solicited sex in an airport stall ... wait, no ... that wasn't "the next day" ... that was months later ...

Okay, the New York Times reporting that Bush was illegally wiretapping U.S. citizens ... oh, wait ... that wasn't reported in the middle of the 2004 Presidential race, that was sometime in 2005 ... or so ... well after George W. Bush was "re-"elected ...
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:32 PM
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3. thanks for coming all the way from Canada to give us your opinion. nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:31 PM
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18. I thought #2 got the Granite Pizza Delivery yesterday....
Whoa...some pleading took place and a reinstatement? :shrug:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:33 PM
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4. welcome to DU
Sorry, you can disagree with what he says, but I've seen Obama make this argument plenty of times, that reform will save money over time. I don't think it's a gaffe just because Biden said it.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:24 PM
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16. Unfortunately the media
will portray pretty much every that Biden says as a gaffe. I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that one of the VP's jobs is to "take the bullet" for the boss. It is very uncomfortable to watch though. Joe has taken on so many responsibilities since January, but the media rarely reports on them.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:06 PM
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10. yep, i know
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:17 PM
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12. Jeez, you just can't win, can you?
Wrong country, wrong forum. Better luck down the road.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:40 PM
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8. Dear Mr. Biden -- ARE YOU NUTS??????????????
Sir, you absolutely astound me with the lunacy of your pronouncement. Absolutely astound me.

You quite clearly do not have a single glimmer of a clue as to what ails this country and its economy. Not a glimmer. Billions upon billions, amounting eventually to trillions of dollars of government money has been spent already, and we have nothing to show for it. The rich are unfathomably richer, but the jobs keep disappearing. The poor get poorer, the middle class gets poorer. Why do you think that is, Mr. Biden?

Why do you think the banks are reaping record profits off late fees and overdraft charges instead of making money through business operations? Why do you think that is? No, don't turn around and ask someone else, like that moron Tim Geithner or that vampire Hank Paulson or that simpering siphon Ben Bernanke. Come up with an answer yourself, Joe.

It's all because the banks, the investment banks, the commercial banks, the finance companies, the brokers and hedgers and the quants and the market makers have all been sucking up all the money. They have gone beyond millionaires, beyond billionaires. And they have done NOTHING for it.

You need an elementary course in real economics, Mr. Biden. You need to learn, or relearn, how an economy operates. With government regulation or without. With credit or without. With tax-funded social programs and without.

Yes, we need universal health care in this country. You and your colleagues who are stupendously well cared for probably don't have any inkling what it's like to worry every single day of your life whether or not you are going to be destroyed by a medical bill. You've seen the ads on tv, I'm sure, featuring the woman who had to put $17,000 in hospital bills on a credit card. What do you think happens to people who don't have $17,000 in credit available? What do you think happens to someone who finds out the cost of their prescriptions means they will have to do without groceries for a week?

More and more and more and more people in this country are being stripped of their jobs, and yet the banks are making billions. Why do you think that is, Mr. Biden? Where do you think all that money is coming from? Banks don't make money, sir. They move it around but they don't make it. Money, or wealth if you wish, is created by people making things and performing services that increase the value of other things. When banks perform the service of lending money so that more money can be created through real economic growth -- not the bubble-blowing inflation of values like we saw in the housing bubble -- then they are helping to facilitate the creation of wealth. But when all they do is suck in the money someone else has made, and do it with so little compassion and so much greed, that's not contributing to the economy; that's destroying it.

Government spending more money to avoid bankruptcy is stupid. Stupid beyond words.



Tansy Gold, who is NOT stupid
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:07 PM
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11. Vampire Hank, perfect description
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:27 PM
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13. Ah, thanks, but they're all vampires. Bloodsuckers. Leeches
These people need to get out of the Beltway more. They need to operate without the surrounding sycophants.

But it's not likely to happen any time soon.



TG
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:55 PM
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15. indeed they all are bloodsucking vamps
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:02 PM
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14. the subject of the event was health care for seniors
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:29 PM
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17. Well he got this one correctly: "We are going to go bankrupt as a Nation."
Unless Obama Administration weeds out their Goldman-Sachs cronies soon...we are definitely going bankrupt as a nation. Obama needs fresh voices and faces and REGULATORY REFORM back to what we had after Great Depression. The sooner he learns that the less likely we go BANKRUPT.


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