Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Socialist Health Plan? In Norway, Obama's Plan Not Even Close

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:33 PM
Original message
Socialist Health Plan? In Norway, Obama's Plan Not Even Close

by George Lakey

If Michael Steele and the Republicans really believe that President Obama is proposing a socialist health plan, they need to get out more.

I've just returned from a research trip to Norway, where their universal health system really is socialist. It's also much less expensive than the current U.S. system, so maybe the Republicans would like it if they checked it out. The non-socialists in Norway support it because it works so well, especially compared with "the bad old days" of private medicine, when even the doctors' association advocated for socialized medicine as the only affordable way to make quality care available to all Norwegians.

One reason Norwegians like their system is that it's pro- economic innovation because it's not tied to the employer. Norwegians are free to change jobs for more challenging opportunities, or try their wings as entrepreneurs, because they don't have to worry about insurance - it's with them wherever they go. Economist Jonathan Gruber of MIT is one of many economists who believe that U.S. employer-tied health insurance is a drag on progress. But Obama's plan accepts the status quo even though it might not be affordable.

Norwegians like their system because it cuts red tape. The patient-doctor relationship isn't complicated by multiple insurances; if you need care, you get it as a matter of right. No bills to pay, no plans to juggle, no worry about your dependents, and no worry about your becoming a burden to your children.

Continued>>>
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/21-12
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. The bottom line is the bottom line meaning socialized health care whether it's
like Medicare or like the VA is far less costly and more comprehensive than this hybrid and unworkable plan of combining privateer insurance and corporate health care management with government subsidies that is boiling up from of Congress.

:thumbsdown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. But what of the poor little children???
You know, the ones that are dreaming to grow up and deny health care to others?? Do you ever think about them??? No, you do not. Selfish.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
3. K & R n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
4. But who would give the Politicians millions of dollars for their political
campaigns if we had a Health Care system that wasn't completely corrupted by greed?

:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:50 PM
Response to Original message
5. Here is the YouTube from Michael Moore on Norway


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4L6-0WRfSA&feature=related

You have to wait to about the two minute mark to hear abt Noraway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:49 PM
Response to Original message
6. K&R
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:11 PM
Response to Original message
7. So long as politicians listen to their pocketbooks and not their constituents...
We will never have a functioning country. It isn't about health care or war or abortion or anything like that. It's all about money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:17 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC