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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:54 AM
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Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine
Let's not beat around the bush on this issue: The swine flu vaccines now being prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults have never been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In Europe, where flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) of people before being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines Agency is allowing companies to skip the testing process entirely.

And yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent any safety testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the U.S. announced a swine flu vaccine trial beginning in early August, it was inundated with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the role of human guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheeple into vaccine injections is simply amazing...

Back in Europe, of course, everybody gets to be a guinea pig since no testing will be done on the vaccine at all. Even worse, the European vaccines will be using adjuvants -- chemicals used to multiply the potency of the active ingredients in vaccines.

Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It's untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological disorders.

Paralyzed by vaccines

I probably don't need to remind you that in 1976, a failed swine flu vaccine caused irreparable damage to the nervous systems of hundreds of people, paralyzing many. Medical doctors gave the problem a name, of course, to make it sound like they knew what they were talking about: Guillain-Barre syndrome. (Notably, they never called it "Toxic Vaccine Syndrome" because that would be too informative.)

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http://www.naturalnews.com/026717_swine_flu_flu_vaccine_swine_flu_vaccine.html
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:56 AM
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1. makes me glad i never get flu shots . . . or the flu. eom
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:56 AM
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2. Ah, so that's what Guillan-Barre syndrome was. I must confess, I never bothered to look it up.
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 11:57 AM by valerief
I won't take a damn flu vaccine. I think I took one once many decades ago. Those things scare me.

Funny how I don't get the flu without them.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:08 PM
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5. No, that's NOT what Guillan-Barre syndrome is. This article is fucking lying.
GBS is a disease you can develop without ever having gotten a single vaccination. In fact, very few cases of GBS are caused by vaccination. And the disease was first discovered in 1859.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:10 PM
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7. Thanks.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:40 PM
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9. No vaccines for me, thanks ...
... haven't had 'em since grade school and have been healthy as a horse (as the saying goes).
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:48 PM
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12. Yeah... because everyone else around you has been vaccinated!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:36 PM
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19. LOL! Whatever works! nt
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:25 PM
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18. actually very easy to explain why you don't get the flu
"Herd immunity" -- if a large enough percentage of a population is vaccinated (or otherwise immune), than the remainder tends to be protected. There are very few people around you to catch the flu from if they're all vaccinated.

The exact percentage needed to reach herd immunity varies by disease, depending on how easily it travels. The more easily it is spread, the higher. I think for flu it's 90-95% (but I could be remembering wrong).

I've depended on herd immunity for decades. They always had flu clinics where I worked. I passed, but everybody around me ran to get their flu shots.

I thanked them silently back then. I'll thank them publicly (sort of) now.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:03 PM
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3. I'm having myself and my daughter vaccinated ASAP.
Flu kills.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:07 PM
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4. I read yesterday
that no adjuvants will be used on children or vulnerable groups. It will be just like making the yearly flu vaccine...just using a different seed virus which is the pandemic strain. Nothing to worry about there.
This will be pretty safe.
It is only if they need to stretch the supply that adjuvants will be used in the rest of the vaccinations and that is the worrisome part of the plan.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:10 PM
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6. Supposedly they are doing human testing now.
I know this doesn't make it fact but, I heard that on a couple different news programs. One was a local station calling for volunteers to test the vaccine.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:44 PM
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11. I know 2 who are testing volunteers at Group Health Seattle. n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:02 PM
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14. I can tell you Emory
which is right by me - is going to start testing.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:11 PM
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8. This article is full of bad science and outright fabrications.
Among other things, Guillain-Barre syndrome was first diagnosed in 1859, and the vast majority of cases happen without there having been any vaccinations involved. It also once again pushes the discredited link between vaccines and autism, and plays up the scaremongering for all it's worth.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:43 PM
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10. Testing is going on now in Seattle and 5 other sites.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:01 PM
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13. You should see the rest of the crap on this website
Half of it belongs on Snopes.

Most of the "articles" are simply ads for homeopathic garbage.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:52 PM
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15. The current swine flu is nothing compared to the dreaded mutated one coming later this year
according to WHO. So I'm waiting for that vaccine, this one won't help against the bad one.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:55 PM
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16. You have the freedom to experience all aspects of any flu pandemic w/o medical intervention
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 01:56 PM by stray cat
those of us who decide the risks are higher for the flu than the vaccine can get the vaccine. It will be limited so it is good to see some don't want it. Vaccines are not instantaneous creations - we are lucky if there is anything available.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:58 PM
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17. I cannot believe people are un recommending this!
Don't they care people will die?
I am not getting that shot period. The one and only time I ever got a flu shot..I ended up getting the flu dozens of times and was sick all the time with flues for years! I vomited so much after that flu shot I thought my ribs were broke. I finally went all natural and I have not been sick for ages.
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