Anti-gay LTTE in today's Kalamazoo Gazette

[Occulus]

The anti-gay voices are becoming more strident and, alas, acceptable, even here in SW Michigan, and in a college town, no less:

There's no civil right to marriage between gays

Saturday, April 24, 2004

By John Van Buren

In response to high school student Danielle Harik's March 20 Viewpoint article on why she supports gay marriages, it is apparent by her patent answers that she is a victim of the distortions that are embodied in the so-called diversity programs.

She claims that the denial of marriage to gays is a denial of rights contained in the Constitution and violates their civil rights. How can you claim a right to be a human right when it is not contained in natural moral law? The state cannot claim a legal right (gay marriage) to exist when it contravenes and contradicts natural law. When this happens the result is social, civil and cultural chaos.

Danielle, marriage is not just any relationship between humans. There is a well-defined biological design and purpose for the sexes (Biology 1001) and it is in harmony with natural moral law. The marriage between a man and a woman evolve from this law. Gay marriage is an absolute contradiction.

Civil rights laws were instituted to protect a person from discrimination based on one's race, gender, handicap and age based on the simple fact that these are conditions over which a person has no control. Sexual orientation is a personal choice and is behavior driven -- the same as drug and alcohol abuse, there is no such thing as "gay rights." Many readers and the media (including the Kalamazoo Gazette) keep repeating the big lie that gays are born gay. I have not found one scientific study to verify such a fact.

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A retiree of the Michigan Department of Mental Health, no less. Who knows how many GLBT people he filled with self-loathing over the years. I can't imagine a more damaging profession for a 'phobe to be in.

If * gets reelected, will there come a time when it's illegal to be gay in the US? It's pretty easy to see that this is what the phobes really want, especially with the bill the just passed the Michigan House which would allow doctors to refuse treatment to homosexuals based on personal religious convictions. These people, I honestly believe, would kill me given half the chance, and a lot more people would just turn their backs while I died.

It's becoming more ok to hate gays, not less. Maybe I should get a CCW sometime in the near future... if * gets reelected, I just might need it, thanks to people like this.

[NMDemDist2]

1. biology "1001" ???

he had to add a zero cuz that what he is a great big zero!

[Occulus]

2. LOL I missed that on first read n/t

[freetobegay]

3. I wish people would stop telling me I am a personal choice!

eom

[rooboy]

4. WTF is "natural moral law", and who defines it?

Jeeeeeebus, what an idiot..... And states DO NOT CLAIM RIGHTS AT ALL. Rights are endowed to individuals and states are endowed their rights (privileges) via the consent of the people.

Typical "let's make up the origins of everything" shit.

[eyesroll]

5. By that same logic, nobody has the right not to be a slave...

Where's the right to assemble? To own a gun? There's no free press in the Bible, either.
The right to vote, last I checked, also isn't part of "natural moral law."

Plenty of quite mainstream religions consider same-sex relationships to be perfectly moral and natural. (The same, might I add, can be said about women's equality and abortion and contraception rights.) It bugs me to no end that these LTTE readers claim that we can't have same-sex marriage because it's against the Judeo-Christian heritage of the country ... last I checked, Reform Judaism, the United Church of Christ, etc. were Judeo-Christian...and, for that matter, Unitarian/Universalism, Wicca, etc., that also tolerate or welcome same-sex relationships also are recognized as religions by the government...

[rooboy]

6. If we can find 2 animals of the same sex "going at it", then it's ok...

and since apparently homosexual behaviour is common in the animal kingdom, there shouldn't be any problem...

[Occulus]

7. ...and if you've ever lived on a farm or had multiple male dogs,

you'll know that the males of many species often try to go at it with the same sex. Shoot- my neighbor has a mini-pinscher (sp?), and that little bastard is just about the horniest thing on four legs. A blanket, a leg, a female dog... it's all the same to him! :D

[Skittles]

8. honestly

people who think gays - or anyone - "choose" their sexuality - there's not much left to say, is there?