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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:53 AM
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Newsweek: Troops Don't Have What They Need to Protect Themselves
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4825948/

"Soldiers in Iraq complain that Washington has been too slow to acknowledge that the Iraqi insurgency consists of more than "dead-enders." And even at the Pentagon many officers say Rumsfeld and his brass have been too reluctant to modify their long-term plans for a lighter military. On the battlefield, that has translated into a lack of armor. Perhaps the most telling example: a year ago the Pentagon had more than 400 main battle tanks in Iraq; as of recently, a senior Defense official told NEWSWEEK, there was barely a brigade's worth of operational tanks still there. (A brigade usually has about 70 tanks.)

"In continuing adherence to the Army's "light is better" doctrine, even units recently rotated to Iraq have left most of their armor behind. These include the I Marine Expeditionary Force, which has paid dearly for that decision with an astonishing 30 percent-plus casualties (45 killed, more than 300 wounded) in Fallujah and Ar Ramadi. The Army's 1st Cavalry Division—which includes the unit in Sadr City—left five of every six of its tanks at home, and five of every six Bradleys.

A breakdown of the casualty figures suggests that many U.S. deaths and wounds in Iraq simply did not need to occur. According to an unofficial study by a defense consultant that is now circulating through the Army, of a total of 789 Coalition deaths as of April 15 (686 of them Americans), 142 were killed by land mines or improvised explosive devices, while 48 others died in rocket-propelled-grenade attacks. Almost all those soldiers were killed while in unprotected vehicles, which means that perhaps one in four of those killed in combat in Iraq might be alive if they had had stronger armor around them, the study suggested. Thousands more who were unprotected have suffered grievous wounds, such as the loss of limbs."

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:25 AM
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1. Sailors Prevented a Disaster
Friday 2 U.S. sailors lost their lives in an explosion off the coast of Iraq. Their patrol boat was blown up by terrorist suicide boats. The sailors were intercepting the suicide boats before they could attack 2 oil tankers. If the terrorists had not been stopped, it could have been an environmental disaster and would have cost many more lives. Their heroism should be more widely recognized.

If larger navy ships had been available, the sailors might still be alive - a larger ship could have sunk the suicide boats from a distance.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:49 AM
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2. I want a full accouting of the people's 160 Billion
plus that 700 million of miss-appropriated funds
from Afganistan .

I DEMAND IT ! ! !
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:01 PM
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3. compassionate?
How many times have you heard Bush* say he cares about our troops.

They why did he send them into an immoral war of choice without the proper equipment to defend themselves? see below


Army Rushing More Armored Humvees to Iraq


By DENIS D. GRAY, Associated Press Writer

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040425/ap_on_re_mi...


When the war began, only about 2 percent of Army's 110,000 Humvees were armored. Now, of the nearly 15,000 Humvees in Iraq, about 1,500 to 2,000 are armored, according to the Army. The numbers are increasing.





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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:13 PM
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4. This is fucking disgusting....
A year in and we still have under supplied troops who are DYING and being maimed because of it.

IS THIS HOW YOU HONOR OUR TROOPS, "PRESIDENT" BUSH!!!!!!

And did you notice that Rummie was asking for a 6% budget DECREASE for the Army in 2005????
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:44 PM
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5. There was an item on the local news last week
about the Minneapols police trying to collect spare kevlar vests to send to Iraq. I'm glad they're doing it, but it is truly pathetic they have to.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:05 AM
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6. The Army and the USMC if you'll excuse
...the expression suck hind tit when it comes to defense appropriations. Everyone knows it. The Air Force and the Navy spend the most. In a ground pounder grinder like this, the real costs come to the fore. Life is cheap, gotta have NMD and Army lite. Congress approved the budgets who are they trying to kid. The defense budget has exceeded those of the height of the Vietnam war (in terms of GDP) since this Iraq debacle started.
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