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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:32 AM
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Rahm Pushing Triggers Through Olympia Snowe

I thought it was weird when Olympia Snowe suddenly started pushing triggers. Rahm Emanuel has been lobbying for them since early in the year, and lately the White House has been trying to burnish the image of "triggers" by pressing liberal validators into service. And now, according to Marc Ambinder, lo and behold:

Senior White House officials, in conversations with reporters today, are floating the idea that President Obama is secretly negotiating with Sen. Olympia Snowe over a health care compromise that would phase in a government-funded health care alternative if private insurance companies fail to meet quality and cost benchmarks over a certain period of the time. The public discussion of the Snowe "compromise" is meant to test the reaction of House Democrats, who will pass a bill that includes an immediate public option added to a new health insurance exchange. The White House hopes that, having voted for a public option, House Dems would accept a "trigger" as part of a conference committee compromise rather than putting the kibosh on the entire health care reform project. In some ways, this strategy is old, and in some ways it's new. For months, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has been pushing the idea of a "trigger" internally, and he and Snowe regularly trade legislative and political intelligence.

That's great. Not satisfied with working through Blue Dogs any more, Rahm is now using Republicans to write his trillion dollar bailout of the health care industry. Is this a great country or what.

And what does the White House think of the 60 Democrats in the House who pledged to vote against any bill that does not have a public plan?

For a while now, Obama's aides have believed that the 50-odd progressives in the House who are demanding a public option will get their jollies if they can pass a bill out of the House, and that they will be too afraid to oppose a bill that makes it out of a subsequent conference committee -- a bill that President Obama would specifically endorse.

Nothing new here: give the base a little kabuki, pass a bill with a public plan out of the House, then get real in conference. Except it's looking like things may have accelerated. They may be afraid to let a public plan pass the House for fear it will get too entrenched, so it looks like they might try and kill it now.

And what about reconciliation?

The threat of passing a bill through reconciliation is "real," but it still isn't the "go" option because it is, as of yet, politically unsalable, at least in the opinion of White House aides. The politics of health care have been distorted, they believe, to the point where Obama needs to make the case that the regular (even a-historical) congressional procedure is being used by obstructionists to prevent the passage of the bill. This may be self-evident to some Democrats, but the American people aren't there yet, and until they're there, the White House will do whatever it can to build its 60 vote supermajority.

See, this is where I'm confused. Because if Olympia Snowe is writing the fucking bill, there are 59 Democrats in the Senate -- 60 after they replace Kennedy. The only reason you wouldn't have 60 votes is if the bill is such a piece of shit that DEMOCRATS won't vote for it.

Or, maybe Socialists
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/rahm-pushing-triggers-through-olympia-snowe/

I've started calling the health care bill a PRE-BAILOUT FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!

It's just like the bank bailout. A transfer of wealth and nothing elese!
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:35 AM
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1. Rahm would not push this without Pres. Obama's OK.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:50 AM
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2. I'm not so sure of that. n/t
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:52 AM
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3. You think he would outside of Obama?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:59 AM
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6. I think Rahm works for Rahm and just likes to pretend to work at the pleasure of the potus
He's a slimey self serving weasel who will do whatever he pleases, whenever and wherever he pleases.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:03 AM
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7. I do not
particularly care for him. But the situation you set up has echoes of Cheney is in charge and Bush follows. eeks.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 06:56 PM
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18. I'm sorry, that is not what I meant
I equate him to Turdblossom, er, Rove. Who, by the way, once held the same office Ramn does. No, Obama isn't a puppet and Biden definitely is pulling no strings. Cheney was out to rule the world. Rahm and Rove are both out there to help their own little pet asses, nothing less and rarely more.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:59 AM
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5. I'm inclined to agree with you-- he's Obama's chief of staff....
Either Obama can't keep his loose cannons tied down on deck or-- more likely-- Emmanual and Obama are at least in substantial agreement.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:18 PM
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14. I think Rahm would only push what Obama has agreed with.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:32 PM
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15. I'm nauseated when I read this stuff. too bad rahm hasn't had
family die from lack of insurance. if he had, he would maybe grow a conscience.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:58 AM
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4. bailing out insurance, doctors, hospitals, lawyers and the rich before health care for all
That is what Rham wants
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:03 AM
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8. Fuck Rahm with a chainsaw.
And fuck O if he plays games with Americans' lives like this. :mad:
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:09 AM
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10. A rusty chainsaw. X1000.
And his boss too, I'm starting to think. :grr:
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:05 AM
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9. Rahm was President Obama's number one draft pick. Let's stop pretending Rahm's pushing the Pres
around on an issue as big as healthcare.

Obama got outplayed on this because the Republicans who were supposed to be part of his "bipartisan" coalition that he threw in our face, aren't playing along. Snowe is the only R they have a prayer of reaching, and right now they are throwing a Hail Mary that they can count Snowe's cooperation as the bipartisan victory they need to be able to spin a bad bill into a positive.

I sincerely believe from all the leaks that the public option was killed weeks ago, and the White House now has to scramble for a way to tell the left that he sold us out without any valid push from the right.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:29 AM
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13. When I heard Rahm was his pick --
for COS, what little genuine "hope" I had about O went right out the window. :(
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:26 AM
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11. Triggers are a pile of shit nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:37 PM
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16. Indeed.
The only reason for "triggers" is to pretend they're protecting us.

If and when they are put in place and the necessary conditions met, you can be sure there will be an excuse not to pull these triggers.

That's undoubtedly the plan.

We've been had.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:28 AM
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12. Why this desperate struggle to saved a failed health care system? nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:41 PM
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17. Depends who's point of view we're using.
Insurance companies: protect our profits.

Elected officials: protect our continued campaign contributions (and outright bribes).

Dumbass 'Murkins: I think whatever Rush says!!!!111! seriesly!11! Number Wun!!!!

Real citizens: We don't want this! What can we do?
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