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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:37 AM
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How to slash Medicare funding (surreptitiiously and in plain sight)
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8062






....Suppose you're Pete Peterson, and you've spent your career trying to slash America's "entitlement" programs, and you figured out a way to make drastic cuts in Medicare under the guise of "health care reform."

In that hypothetical, your major goal would be to extract hundreds of billions of dollars from the Medicare payment system, and then build in a politically shielded mechanism to extract hundreds of billions more if the initial cuts didn't sufficiently reduce Medicare's hit on the budget.

You'd have to package this carefully, because if you simply announced you wanted to slash Medicare by perhaps a trillion dollars or more over the next decade or so, you'd get slaughtered by AARP and earn the wrath of liberal Democrats and particularly seniors, the majority of whom tend to vote Democratic, or at least they used to.

So you'd talk about eliminating "waste, fraud and abuse" in the system. Few would believe there's much hope in that, so you'd add the idea of changing the provider payment incentives to get equal or better care by changing how providers practice medicine. You'd talk about "bending the cost curve" and warn folks that unless we did something dramatic, the Medicare deficits would overwhelm the federal budget and dominate the GDP.

It would be useful to have bipartisan cover for the risks of incurring seniors' wrath, but since the Republicans would be unlikely to participate openly in such a scheme and would rather use it to scare seniors, you probably couldn't count of them. So you'd settle for a small, manageable "bipartisan" group you could more easily control and which would provide at least temporary cover while you put the package together.

Of course, the core of the Democratic Party would never stand for doing this in lieu of pursuing universal coverage, let alone doing it alone and accepting the risks. But you might be able to convince them you were trying to enact broader "health care reform" and then slip the Medicare package inside the broader effort. That would get the Democrats, including the reform-minded progressives, fully engaged in the details of "reform" while continuing to move the main Medicare piece through the more controlled "gang of six."

Part of the Medicare savings would have to come from reducing subsidies for Medicare Advantage insurers and providers. But to make that acceptable to insurers, you'd offer a deal to AHIP that they'd make up for the losses by getting millions of new customers, which would come from the mandates the "reformists" would impose in pursuit of universal coverage. Once Karen Ignagni signed off on this deal (as she did last spring), and sold it as "we accept no prior conditions in exchange for mandates," a major piece would be in place.

That would leave only the difficult piece where you ease the Democrats, and roll the progressives, so that they bought the whole "incremental" argument. You'd sell a package that included some expansion in coverage but wasn't really reform. And since expansion wasn't your priority in the first place, you'd signal in the President's speech that (1) you had to keep costs under about $900 billion and (2) new revenues could only come from within the health sector.

You'd have the President demand these two arbitrary limits in a national speech to make them hard to overturn. Of course, neither limit had any intrinsic merits; in fact if you wanted true reforms and universality, you'd initially have to find major revenues outside the system, just as the House had done, until the potential savings you hoped to achieve could materialize (or not) within the sector. But if the President set out these limits, and most Democrats didn't immediately scream, you'd be home free.

As final negotiations moved ahead, Progressive would realize they'd been had. They'd watch in horror as the $900 billion for expansion and affordability got cut down to $800 billion and then $700 billion as the WH originally suggested, exacerbating the risks their yes votes would force the uninsured to purchase junk insurance at prices they couldn't afford but their no votes

So there it is: the Pete Petersons would get drastic trillion dollar cuts in Medicare, while Democrats tried to hide from seniors the fact they've been asked to risk benefit cuts to fund a questionable expansion of coverage which, after all, was only a cover for hacking Medicare. It's a neat trick.

And all that stuff about the "public health insurance option" and co-ops and/or triggers? Nice diversion, but gosh, we just don't have the votes in the Senate.

All of this was done in plain sight. This was never multidimensional chess. It was just the simple card game of gin. You just had to look at the cards in a different way.


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:31 PM
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1. Yep!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:04 PM
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2. A question for the non-wonkish...
Who the heck is Pete Peterson? :shrug:

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:13 PM
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3. Dr. Zeke Emanuel? nt
:P
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 03:35 PM
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4. I think it's this Pete Peterson--former Commerce Secy--see link
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:13 PM
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5. This guy.
A billionaire scumbag that Obama let into his inner circle of advisers.
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Looting Social Security
By William Greider

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090302/greider


Is Social Security threatened by entitlement reformers? David M. Walker, president and CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation responds to William Greider's essay here. Read William Greider's answer to Peterson's criticism here.

Governing elites in Washington and Wall Street have devised a fiendishly clever "grand bargain" they want President Obama to embrace in the name of "fiscal responsibility." The government, they argue, having spent billions on bailing out the banks, can recover its costs by looting the Social Security system. They are also targeting Medicare and Medicaid. The pitch sounds preposterous to millions of ordinary working people anxious about their economic security and worried about their retirement years. But an impressive armada is lined up to push the idea--Washington's leading think tanks, the prestige media, tax-exempt foundations, skillful propagandists posing as economic experts and a self-righteous billionaire spending his fortune to save the nation from the elderly.

These players are promoting a tricky way to whack Social Security benefits, but to do it behind closed doors so the public cannot see what's happening or figure out which politicians to blame. The essential transaction would amount to misappropriating the trillions in Social Security taxes that workers have paid to finance their retirement benefits. This swindle is portrayed as "fiscal reform." In fact, it's the political equivalent of bait-and-switch fraud.

Defending Social Security sounds like yesterday's issue--the fight people won when they defeated George W. Bush's attempt to privatize the system in 2005. But the financial establishment has pushed it back on the table, claiming that the current crisis requires "responsible" leaders to take action. Will Obama take the bait? Surely not. The new president has been clear and consistent about Social Security, as a candidate and since his election. The program's financing is basically sound, he has explained, and can be assured far into the future by making only modest adjustment.

(snip) more


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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:44 PM
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6. Ah, yes..
Troublesome fellow.

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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:52 PM
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10. oh dear.... good research! horrible implications... Thank you.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:27 PM
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16. Thanks for the link and the post.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 09:27 PM by truedelphi
Will spend some time with this.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:23 AM
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17. dude I'm so tired of the President's corp advisors thanks for the link !
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 01:23 AM by democracy1st
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:04 PM
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19. What is very maddening about all of this is that the Republicans
Who want to go after Medicare now use the word "Reform' to describe the process they will use to get this before both Houses.

Obama's Presidency has seen the word "reform" turn from a word that progressives thought would give us perhaps the first steps toward Single Payer Universal Health Care to a totally different word that means "ending a program"

Thanks for all the Change We Can Believe in, Mr President, Harry Reid and others...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:50 PM
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13. From Wiki ....also chair of the "Blackstone Group." (remember them?)
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:15 PM
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7. This is a very cynical and conspiratorial view. The goal is NOT to cut benefits, but cut COSTS.
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 05:16 PM by BREMPRO
the proposal is for comparative effectiveness, preventative care, and modeling best practices, not a cut in actual benefits.

I agree to much corporate money is influencing the process, but i don't share the writer's cynicism about Obama's leadership.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:49 PM
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9. hmmm... painful stuff the author posits if true, or close. We don't want to believe it could be true
It is scary to think about...

It may be less about Obama than his advisors, or maybe not?

Honestly, I don't like to think this way, but it could make sense given the lack of transparency we've seen, and the lack of commitment to policies/values. Like standing for something.

I present it as food for pondering.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:54 PM
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14. Obama's leadership isn't the real culprit...it's Congress and Lobbyists...
although the people Obama has advising him are all part and parcel of the same groups who pal around with the lobbyists. DC is a tight circle. Obama believes that "computer medical records" and "best practice" guidlines for illness will both cut costs. But, what he believes and what is being done to the bill will have many "unintended consequences." All bills do...but this one could be fatal to a lot of people who don't have the time until the "bugs" are worked out. If we get a Repug Congress or President....it will be worse in trying to fix the things that don't work out as anticipated. That's the worry and what Jane brings up does indeed seem cause for concern. :shrug:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:55 PM
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8. Obama said again the other night that he would pay for his plan with
cuts in Medicare and Medicade. I thought I was hearing something wrong, but he had said it several times before. Whatever happened to taking away Bush tax breaks for the rich or increasing Social Security dollars by going higher up the income scale. These folks will hardly even feel the bite, especially the top 1%. This is what happens when someone becomes our party's standard bearer who has little experience and even less credentials. Obama sold us CHANGE in the primaries and the general election and then he began immediately to choose DLCer (and worse) advisors and Cabinet members. I knew when Rahm was selected and then Geithner that change was not going to happen.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:51 PM
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11. With the retirement of the baby boomers and their movement to Medicare
it is hard to comprehend how any savings from Medicare can be used to fund the proposed health care reform bills.

Estimates are that beginning within the next year or two the number of enrollees on Medicare will grow from 46 million to 79 million over the next two decades.

I just do not see how that ads up?

Thanks for posting.







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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:47 PM
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12. ...and sadly we know there are interests on both sides who really want to
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 08:47 PM by KoKo
get rid of Medicare and force "Health Savings Accounts" and more investment in the Stock Market so you will be prepared for later life. They are still selling both of those even though the Health Savings Accounts weren't workable and we know what just happened to lots of retirees money in the market and they can't even get a decent return in a CD or Savings Account these days.

I think the Grover Norquist Dream of "Drown it in the Bathtub" is coming true due to the PTB wrecking the economy. Not going to be any money to do much of anything except cut and cut and keep filling the Corporatists pockets so folks don't realize how bad off they are until they go under.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:09 PM
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15. Yes...IMO something will have to give when Medicare enrollment
increases significantly...

decreased services with more costs shifted to the individual or incresed taxes on the younger generation of workers.

:shrug:

Just as we were told in the 80's to not count on Social Security people would be wise to count less on Medicare...all IMHO.





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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:00 PM
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18. Thank you for bringing this topic up. We are being so played, and so used that
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 02:01 PM by truedelphi
It is pathetic.
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